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thumbstruck
Ahonui
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 Posted - 02/14/2011 : 2:14:34 PM
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| I still will play what I like. If someone's interest is peaked by the award, very cool. Remember: baby steps, one tune at a time. LIke I tell Hans, "We conquer ignorance one polka at a time." |
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Retro
Ahonui
USA
2368 Posts |
Posted - 02/15/2011 : 07:21:59 AM
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Originally posted by sm80808
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Originally posted by Retro
Holomua.
really?
Absolutely. To be more clear: Pupukahi i holomua. |
Edited by - Retro on 02/15/2011 1:42:55 PM |
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Auntie Maria
Ha`aha`a
USA
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Larry Goldstein
Lokahi
267 Posts |
Posted - 02/15/2011 : 1:10:22 PM
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From the article Aunti Maria provided is,
“….,but I think because of the reality of the current radio industry in Hawaii, I never heard (her album) so I can’t comment on it.”
When visiting the islands I go Maui, Big Island or Kauai, and the radio selections are limited. But I still note a disconnect of sorts in the cultural renaissance, the wonderful presence of the language every where, and the paucity of honest Hawaiian music on the radio. Unless I'm listening to KKCR in the morning, I hear more on the plane.
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wcerto
Ahonui
USA
5052 Posts |
Posted - 02/15/2011 : 1:36:55 PM
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| One thing for the people who can vote on the Grammy awards...the full recordings are available via streaming on the Grammy secure web site. There is no reason someone who votes should not have listened to the music that he/she is voting on. |
Me ke aloha
Malama pono,
Wanda |
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Retro
Ahonui
USA
2368 Posts |
Posted - 02/15/2011 : 1:45:10 PM
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Originally posted by wcerto
One thing for the people who can vote on the Grammy awards...the full recordings are available via streaming on the Grammy secure web site. There is no reason someone who votes should not have listened to the music that he/she is voting on.
...unless rights can not be obtained for any nominee, in which case none of the nominees in that particular category are made available - to avoid accusations of unfair advantage. This happened with the Hawaiian Album category in the past, in fact. |
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thumbstruck
Ahonui
USA
2173 Posts |
Posted - 02/15/2011 : 4:01:17 PM
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| Waylon Jennings used to sing a song about music being made by lawyers and machines. |
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Auntie Maria
Ha`aha`a
USA
1918 Posts |
Posted - 02/15/2011 : 7:12:14 PM
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From tonight's TV news:
http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=14038377
which includes this quote from Dennis Kamakahi:
"Of course, it was a disappointment. After all that hard work, and then you hear who the winner is," Dennis Kamakahi, Grammy nominee, said. "When is the real music of Hawaii going to be represented?" |
Auntie Maria
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My "Aloha Kaua`i" radio show streams FREE online every Thu & Fri 7-9am (HST)
www.kkcr.org - Kaua`i Community Radio
"Like" Aloha Kauai on Facebook, for playlists and news/info about island music and musicians!
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chunky monkey
Ha`aha`a
USA
1023 Posts |
Posted - 02/15/2011 : 8:03:40 PM
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Retro
Ahonui
USA
2368 Posts |
Posted - 02/15/2011 : 8:26:35 PM
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Originally posted by Auntie Maria
... Dennis Kamakahi, Grammy nominee, said. "When is the real music of Hawaii going to be represented?"
So --- what was the music on those past "slack key from Maui" winners supposed to be (including Uncle Dennis' performances)? |
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markwitz
`Olu`olu
USA
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Iakonu
Akahai
USA
57 Posts |
Posted - 02/17/2011 : 11:00:04 AM
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| I mean no disrespect for any of the nominated artists - they are all truly exceptional and dedicated artists. But this thread reminds me of the swirling controversy when Mili Vanilli won a Grammy for Best New Artist in 1990 (over the Indigo Girls at that). Personally, I lost faith in the Grammy's ever getting it "right" at that point. And then Shakespeare in Love beat Saving Private Ryan for Best Picture at the 1998 Academy Awards - sheesh! Sometimes the horse we want to win the race comes up short. |
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Admin
Pupule
USA
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Posted - 02/17/2011 : 11:24:31 AM
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Originally posted by Iakonu
I mean no disrespect for any of the nominated artists - they are all truly exceptional and dedicated artists. But this thread reminds me of the swirling controversy when Mili Vanilli won a Grammy for Best New Artist in 1990 (over the Indigo Girls at that). Personally, I lost faith in the Grammy's ever getting it "right" at that point. And then Shakespeare in Love beat Saving Private Ryan for Best Picture at the 1998 Academy Awards - sheesh! Sometimes the horse we want to win the race comes up short.
My thinking was similar 5-6 years ago. You do lose respect for the Academy that awarded Jethro Tull the 1st Grammy Award for Best Hard Rock/Metal Performance Vocal or Instrumental over the expected favorite Metallica. Back in 1989, Entertainment Weekly called it the "biggest upset in Grammy history."
I enjoyed reading the article that Norman posted. I can only hope that musicians do not abandon the Hawaiian music Grammy. I think that it is a positive for Hawaiian music regardless whether the popular nominee wins. |
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markwitz
`Olu`olu
USA
841 Posts |
Posted - 02/17/2011 : 12:49:09 PM
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I thought it was a great article and I want to quote the last part of it directly. There should be some kind of grassroots effort for all Hawaiian Musicians, that qualify to become members to sign up.
Auntie Maria said it very well indeed in a different thread.
"If you really care about island music, and meet the stated qualifications to become a voting member, please join NARAS and HARA and let your voice be heard!"
http://www.grammy365.com/join/membership-types
http://www.nahokuhanohano.org/blog/
Here is the quote from the article.
"Of the 11,000 music industry professionals within NARAS’ voting membership, only a small number are from Hawaii or have any practical experience evaluating Hawaiian music. Many local artists are not NARAS members, which means we have no voice on a national level when it comes to submitting our best music for award consideration.
“How many (NARAS voters) are experts in Hawaiian music,” The Mountain Apple Co. president Leah Bernstein asked in Berger’s story. “We don’t know. … If all the people (in Hawaii) who are qualified to vote in the Hawaiian Grammy category here would join, I think we would have enough a bloc that we could determine what everybody feels is the right thing.”
Another way to put it: You’ve got to get in to fit in. Unless more local artists join NARAS and become voting members, it will be up to mostly mainland haole who determine what the best Hawaiian music album is each year. And without someone — or some organization — to rally everyone and coordinate their efforts, there’s a good chance nothing will really change in the short term.
IF THE Hawaii Academy of Recording Arts were to step up and take the lead, more local artists might jump on the bandwagon and join NARAS. They also have the experience and contacts to spearhead trips to Los Angeles that can bring local artists and voters together in the same room.
Get the State of Hawaii involved in the process, too (we’re talking about tourism dollars here, as many visitors to Hawaii are influenced by the music of our islands), and it’s definitely possible to envision a 2012 Grammy Awards junket that could incorporate meet-and-greet events, concerts and other networking options that would raise awareness among mainland voters.
Instead of complaining, Hawaii’s music industry needs to rally together and come up with a plan to bring the Grammy for Best Hawaiian Music Album back to Hawaii.
Sure, you don’t need to be from Hawaii to win the award (or even Native Hawaiian, for that matter), but that doesn’t mean local people can’t work together to ensure we have a better chance at winning in the years to come."
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"The music of the Hawaiians, the most fascinating in the world, is still in my ears and
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thumbstruck
Ahonui
USA
2173 Posts |
Posted - 02/17/2011 : 1:16:13 PM
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| I'm just glad that I can buy a CD or 3 once in a while and see some good jammers on YouTube (mahalos Aunty Wanda). All humans want to be wanted, needed and appreciated. Hard work, talent and discipline should be recognized. One size does not necessarily fit most, that's why get so many kinds of pizza. |
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