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kihoalukid
Lokahi
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 Posted - 04/28/2004 : 5:06:28 PM
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I saw them some years ago, but wasnt paying attention to his technique, he often hits harmonics and bends the pitch down.Anyone know how hes doing this, I assumed he was just bending the neck on his guitar with his hand, but i guess he could also be manipulating the tuning keys or using a guitar with a vibrato bar.Anyone?
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marzullo
`Olu`olu
USA
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Posted - 04/28/2004 : 5:33:13 PM
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hi kihoalukid, i've read in the hapa song book that he bends the neck forward. i've not seem him do it, but led ka`apana does.
aloha, keith
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huiohana
Lokahi
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Posted - 04/28/2004 : 5:51:44 PM
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| Ae, he does bend the neck like uncle Led. It sounds pretty cool, too, when you do it right and not so many times. I remember when I first tried to do that, I nearly broke my kika's neck and nearly poked a hole on the face of my kika. Yipes...A hui hou, Keali'i. |
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kihoalukid
Lokahi
USA
289 Posts |
Posted - 04/28/2004 : 7:26:14 PM
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| Thanks for the replies, i'll experiment on my beater kika, i have nasty visions of snapping the neck on the good one.. (ouch!) |
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marzullo
`Olu`olu
USA
923 Posts |
Posted - 04/28/2004 : 8:11:27 PM
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i've tried the led-move after i watched him do it (obligatory advertisement - when in honolulu, be sure to make time to go hear led play at kapono's. it's free, the music is great, led loves meeting his fans, and you get to watch big ships come in and out of the harbor while listening to good music. henry kapono is often there, and the food's good too!) he braces the body of the guitar with his right arm: his forearm is on the face of the body, parallel to the neck, on the upper (eg, left hand side for a righthanded player). that means you have to move your arm after to pick the note, since your hand is on the other side of the strings (led, of course, picks notes with his right hand anywhere, that big show-off). he then pushes on the head with his left hand. i just did it with my lehua office-uke. don't push too hard: work on it by increasing the torque.
bwangfully,
keith
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huiohana
Lokahi
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Posted - 04/28/2004 : 8:23:32 PM
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Brada Keith,
How's their poke at Kapono's? Good,eh. Too bad they don't give "planny". That setting is the best to see uncle Led guys, yeah? You can wala'au with them between breaks. The only thing I don't like is,(and I know it's an island tradition of some sort), when other people go up and play with whoever I'm there to see. It's like "Hello, I am not here for you." But as you said...it is free. So I keep my waha shut. It is good, too, because it is not too packed. A hui hou, Keali'i. |
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marzullo
`Olu`olu
USA
923 Posts |
Posted - 04/28/2004 : 8:50:22 PM
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hi keali`i,
yup on everything... i'm always amazed at how uncrowded it is, while over in waikiki there's packed places with folks where the music is lots of tired tunes (some notable exceptions, of course!) on folks going up to play, once i saw a young english lass go up and play some of her music, which was pretty hard jazz/folk fusion. led tried to fill in where he could, but after a few minutes he just started laughing and decided to enjoy the show. that was the only time i've seen led stumped.
e malama pono, keith |
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huiohana
Lokahi
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Posted - 04/28/2004 : 9:30:29 PM
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| Wow, and he does'nt get stumped too often yeah? I love when he ventures into other types of music just outside the boundries of kiho'alu, but still keeps it Hawaiian in those jam sessions. A hui hou, Keali'i. |
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Admin
Pupule
USA
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Posted - 04/28/2004 : 10:26:59 PM
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Originally posted by kihoalukid
...he often hits harmonics and bends the pitch down.Anyone know how hes doing this, I assumed he was just bending the neck on his guitar with his hand, but i guess he could also be manipulating the tuning keys or using a guitar with a vibrato bar.Anyone?
No vibrato bar. Like everyone has said, he's bending the neck (forward/towards the body) so that the strings loosen resulting in the bent pitch down. It's a whammy bar effect without the whammy bar. Again, caution as this could have a negative effect on your acoustic guitar.
Also notable, Barry bends harmonics up by pressing the string behind the nut. Some guitars are better suited for this than others. It does not seem to work well on Taylors. I guess it depends on the angle of the string behind the nut. Some have more space to press resulting in a higher pitch bend. |
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cmdrpiffle
`Olu`olu
USA
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Posted - 04/29/2004 : 09:55:46 AM
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Yep, Admin has it nailed on this one.
Barry uses a Washburn Monterey guitar, with a rebuilt neck
courtesy of Steve Grimes. The guitar is well suited to bending.
You can do it with any guitar, but some just work better than
others. Strike a harmonic on say the 12th fret, and while it
is ringing put your palm on the upper bout and use your fretting
hand to bent the neck up. Just enough to loosen the tension.
You can like Andy said increase the pitch of a tone by pushing
down on the string just behind the nut, effectivly tightening
the string.
Experiment with it. It's really an easy and safe effect to do.
I've done it thousands of times, with no ill effects to the
guitar. I have the guitar you hear on the recording, so
maybe it's just easier with that particular model.
Now, if I could just sound like Barry. |
my Poodle is smarter than your honor student |
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