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MahinaM
Lokahi
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 Posted - 05/08/2005 : 06:26:31 AM
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Aloha Jeff!
One of these days, I will make it to Molokai. I've been to the islands multiple times, but never there. I'm sure you will all have a great time (and AMC will only heighten that experience). I wish I could've done both camps!
Have fun!
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Kiwini
Lokahi
USA
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Posted - 05/08/2005 : 08:12:50 AM
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Aloha Maggie and Jeff,
I nevah know you guys like fly fish! Remind me of one guy ova heah, he like fly fish too. He fly fish, he fly chikin, an he make one mean fly lice! Onolicious, I tell you!
OK sorry. Bad Joke. He no keep da fish. He like catch an let go too. Anyway dis guy he fly fish on da windy beaches ova heah, go figgah. Try check um out! Glenn Yoshimoto is his name.
www.zenflyfishing.com
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Me Ke Aloha,
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JeffC
Lokahi
USA
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Posted - 05/08/2005 : 11:26:45 AM
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Thanks for the link.
I could use a little more of that in my life, every now and zen.
Aloha
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Auntie Nancy
`Olu`olu
USA
593 Posts |
Posted - 05/08/2005 : 6:00:43 PM
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Aloha Jeff -
Larry Goldstein are planning to get in a couple dives. We are signed up for the extended camp, which should give us (and you!) a chance to dive that Saturday after Camp. we are also hoping to get in a dive in the AM the day Camp starts. Are you interested? Even more, have you been on any dives there??? Any recommendations before we make our reservations? We've been talking with Moloka'i fish and Dive shop - Tim Forsberg.
Mahalo!!
looking forward to meeting you and the ohana!
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JeffC
Lokahi
USA
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Posted - 05/09/2005 : 07:35:16 AM
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Hi Nancy
Do you mean Saturday the 18th? We will arriving relatively late on the 17th, so will be well less than 24 hours post flight if we try to dive on Saturday. If you mean Sunday, I'll opt out; I'm pretty anxious not to miss the music stuff.
The Saturday after camp ends, however, could be great. Both my wife (Maria) and I are divers and a dive trip could be GREAT. Do you know if the dive boat can accomodate our small children? They obviously won't be diving, but they love boats and the oldest one has ridden on the ferry between Moloka`i and Maui (the youngest was in-utero at the time). With the kids, only one of us could dive at a time, so would be nice if there were two dives--or enough time for us both to get some down time. That day is also Maria's birthday, so I need to make sure that she isn't saddled with all of the child care.
If you are in contact with the Dive shop, can you ask some questions about their ability to accomodate divers' children on the boat? If the allow kids, can the also supply them with personal floatation devices? We were not planning to pack them along.
Anyway, a dive trip is a great suggestion. Despite all the diving we do, we have only ever snorkeled in Hawaiian waters. As a result, I have no input on good dives around Moloka`i. The reef on the south side of the island is gorgeous (I paddled along its edge in a kayak the last time we were there).
Aloha
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Auntie Nancy
`Olu`olu
USA
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Posted - 05/09/2005 : 07:48:24 AM
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Aloha - I wasn't thinking about how long you had to wait after flying to dive... how critical is it? It wouldn't be 12 hrs? I'll ask about keiki on board - sounds like they are very young. We will not give up any precious camp time to diver either. No, I meant Saturday before it starts, but the following Saturday looks good for everyone. We were also thinking possibly about Sun the 26th, but I think we'll only do that if there are no other opportunities to dive. I have to check the ferry schedule for Sundays since the schedule changed.
I used to fly fish along the Golden Trout Creek, and at the headwaters of the south fork of the Kern with my father, catching goldens. We only released the small ones. Later when he told me I had to take them off the hook and gut them myself, I started taking a good book instead of a pole.... and I used to have my guitar up there to play if it wasn't just too cold even by the fire.
Camp's really getting here quickly!!!!! Can't wait!
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MahinaM
Lokahi
USA
389 Posts |
Posted - 05/09/2005 : 11:46:52 AM
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Auntie...you fly fish too? You're amazing!
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JeffC
Lokahi
USA
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Posted - 05/09/2005 : 5:57:22 PM
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Hey Nancy
In a past life a spent a lot of time over the course of a couple of summers traipsing about the Golden Trout Wilderness, high in the southern Sierra. It was before I fly fished, but it was a very formative time in my life. We can talk story about that at camp.
When I got certified, now longer ago than I usually admit, the rule of thumb was wait 24 hours before and after flying to dive. Given that I have had some susceptibility to altitude sickness when going from sea level to greater than 12,000 ft a couple of times (e.g., when we went to the top of Mauna Kea on the Big Island and ran around), and I felt a little shaky for a while after pushing my dive depth and time in Tahiti once, I prefer to play those things conservatively. If I remember, though, you are coming over on the ferry after having spent some time on Maui, so that Sat should be fine for you.
My keikis are young: 2 and 4 (my wife and I are late-bloomers), but very savvy to boats and water. We've taken them both to the field with us since they were born. We are going to bring snorkeling gear and maybe the oldest one will start to do that. She will love it. She's such a nature person. It would be great if you can find out about the dive outfit's compatibility with keikis. What are the prices for the dive trip, by the way, including gear rentals?
I'm sure looking forward to it!
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Auntie Nancy
`Olu`olu
USA
593 Posts |
Posted - 05/09/2005 : 6:30:09 PM
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Aloha!!
Maggie - no longer fly fish, allergic to fish, and our favorite haunts have all been closed by the nature nazis.... (tee hee, I know lots of TP folks belong to the group so no offense, just tease). We used to fly to a number of tiny dirt strips into what is now the Golden Trout Wilderness. The earliest I remember was Monache Meadows, and then later, even after my son was born, we flew into Tunnel Meadows. For you pilots: it's at 9100' and 1200' long, blind final and one way out of course it's dirt and uncontrolled. And for you conservationists, we never left anything but footprints and would go into icey streams to retrieve beer cans left by folks who'd hiked in.... And my family ate what Dad caught - no waste. A little history: that area was fairly heavily populated in the 18th and 19th centuries...
JC - I forget the price - about $100 - $120. Our 2-tank night dive on Maui is $110 plus lots of tax, and then $10 for gear. It includes snacks and lite dinner. Usually all tanks and weights are included. I travel with BC and reg. Maybe they have a boat suitable for the 6 of us - that would be cool. the ones on Maui are almost all much bigger. Robinson's my favorite - out of Kihei.
Hey, you get to LA area, let us know!!
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MahinaM
Lokahi
USA
389 Posts |
Posted - 05/09/2005 : 9:33:38 PM
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Eh Kiwini! Thanks for the website! Very interesting stuff! Auntie & Jeff: You both can teach me the zen of diving one of these days!
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Auntie Nancy
`Olu`olu
USA
593 Posts |
Posted - 05/10/2005 : 04:33:06 AM
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Hey!
Don't threaten to learn if you don't mean it! we'll hold you to it. It's a great activity for the older crowd. If you learn properly, pay attention, are willing to say no, I don't think so, it's a very relaxed way to see a fantastically exciting part of our planet. In the back country I was always thrilled to catch a glimpse of a buck, love to coax squirrels and birds into eating out of my hand. The animals you find while diving are diverse and amazing. Off the Southern Channel Islands here, if you pull out your nice shiney dive knife, you'll be mobbed by the bright orange garabaldi because they know you're going to break open an urchin or two and feed them. The sea lions are curious so they come right up to you, mimic you, peak over your shoulder to see what's so interesting when you check out your gauges or computer. Off the Hawai'ian islands you will find thousands of fish you've never seen in pictures (except Ed Robinson's book). The turtles are really cool.... oh oh, I could go on and on......
but it's like taking a walk in the park so it's a perfect activity for us old folks.
See you on Maui!!!
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Kiwini
Lokahi
USA
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Posted - 05/10/2005 : 11:17:28 AM
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Maggie, a'ole pilikia. The fish he catches as you can see are Pacific Barred Perch. They have enormous pull because of their shape and you have to fight the everchanging hydraulic currents. The fish are usually caught just behind the shore break as they are feeding on the sand crabs so often times he doesn't have to cast too far. We also use the hydraulics to our advantage allowing it to suck our baits out to deeper waters by the undertow. It is a very interesting form of fishing. Best times are early morning on a rising tide.
Glad you liked it.
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MahinaM
Lokahi
USA
389 Posts |
Posted - 05/10/2005 : 12:12:18 PM
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Auntie: I'm a closet Jacques Cousteau wanna-be and have always wanted to get certified, but never had the time. Now, with all the slack key, uke, hula stuff, I may never get on the Calypso! It might be as impossible as surf fly fishing for perch or finally mastering Radio Hula.
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JeffC
Lokahi
USA
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Posted - 05/10/2005 : 5:40:41 PM
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Hey Steve
Sounds like you've experienced this first hand and know a little bit about fish and tugging on lines. Sounds like a hoot. I'd love to try it!
I've got a friend also named Glenn (Yoshioka, no less) who last told me about the joys of surf fishing on a fly.
Trade some trout fishin for some surf fishin
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Auntie Nancy
`Olu`olu
USA
593 Posts |
Posted - 05/10/2005 : 6:46:17 PM
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Aloha eh Jeff!
Here's the skinny on the diving:
You only have to wait to fly after, you can fly, then dive right away. We've signed up for dives both Saturday mornings and they are trying to put together a night dive for Sat 25th. Your keiki can go - no charge. You both pay full price even though not using all tanks, because keiki take up room. price: $125/person + tax. Equip rental $20/person (maybe if you go both AM and night dive, no pay for both since it's same day?) I am calling him tomorrow afternoon to confirm all this and pay to reserve. I will probably give you his number so you can transmit your credit card info.
It's not far off now!!
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