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chunky monkey
Ha`aha`a
USA
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 Posted - 06/13/2005 : 04:44:25 AM
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Anyone know where I can find music for How'd Ya Do? This seems to have become a slack-key standard, being recorded by nearly everyone. I was unaware that Atta Isaccs wrote this. True?
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`Ilio Nui
`Olu`olu
USA
826 Posts |
Posted - 06/13/2005 : 04:50:37 AM
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Terry,
That's true. Did Ikaika Brown play it in SanDiego? He plays it in Atta's C and showed it to me in Oregon. As far as finding the music, I haven't a clue.
Dave |
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Russell Letson
`Olu`olu
USA
504 Posts |
Posted - 06/13/2005 : 06:20:51 AM
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I thought it was composed by Andy Iona back in the 1940s. It was a steel guitar standard that Atta adapted to slack key. Ken Emerson and Owana have both recorded it on steel.
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Jeff Au Hoy
Aloha
USA
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Posted - 06/13/2005 : 07:38:00 AM
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I agree with Russell. Andy Iona (Aiona) composed the tune. If you don't want to work with 15th generation xerox copies, I posted the composer's original late-1930's recording at:
http://members.aol.com/xjahx808/1.mp3
By the way, Iona didn't have a thumb on his picking hand.
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`Ilio Nui
`Olu`olu
USA
826 Posts |
Posted - 06/13/2005 : 09:47:51 AM
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My bad. Thanks. I heard the story from a hwn master and believed him. Makana does a version also.
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donkaulia
Lokahi
249 Posts |
Posted - 06/13/2005 : 5:21:42 PM
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| Depending on how you tune to C slack...it takes alot of chord progressions as well as timing to match what Atta Isaacs played. I got to listen to Atta play it solo 28years ago and if you can sound like 3 guys playing then you got it. Most of guys I heard thus far play this song as a duo or combo with the steel...this is nahenahe. I heard Makana and Jeff Peterson's solo versions and find them very unique. I love playing this song and if you can play this piece as a solo without a thumb pick and sound like a 3 piece combo...walah. I'll be playing this at this year's slack key festivals...Don |
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hapakid
Luna Ho`omalu
USA
1533 Posts |
Posted - 06/14/2005 : 2:41:10 PM
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I don't play this tune, but when I recently retuned by steel guitar to C6 (CEGACE,low-high) the song practically played itself between between the the 5th and 7th frets.
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Kapila Kane
Ha`aha`a
USA
1051 Posts |
Posted - 06/14/2005 : 8:20:07 PM
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Geez,
Will Rogders must have known I was coming...
"Everybody's ignorant...just about different subjects".
Third year rookie in da patch.
What Atta's recording would the best 1st acquisition?
I knew this only as the first tune on Makana's "Journey of SKG" cd...
The Rhythmic syncopation is intruiging (has anyone seen my spelling gene?).
Should I assume he's using Atta's C?
I hear dm7 (orF6) opening chord?, then cm7 (Eb6),
Bbm7 (Dbm7), and C...
But the C functions as a long dominant polyrhythmic chord with dominant variations...
Makana's version feels centered in F...but doesn't linger there much.
What's that bass and rhythm pattern? Subdivide and conquer?
No, I can't play it...only listened and did some pitch and rhythm calculations in my head...
sick, sick, sick...Only from the mind of Menehune.
I may be on Pluto here...Between my fickle internal pitch and my memory...and never sitting down with an instrument when doin' my "guzzintoo's".
But I need my taropatch fiends, and the only Glazing I want to see is at the doughnut shop.
Is Atta's C the logical place to decipher this from for guitar...whether it's Iona's, Atta's, or Makana's version?
What is available so I don't have to re-invent the whole wheel?
Just knowing the best tuning(s) would be super...
But
whatever...
Sincerely,
Jethro-- guzzintoos?
(2guzzinto4 twice...
2guzzinto6 three times...etc.)
Everybody's at camp anyway, right?
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Edited by - Kapila Kane on 06/14/2005 8:22:43 PM |
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Kapila Kane
Ha`aha`a
USA
1051 Posts |
Posted - 06/14/2005 : 8:26:41 PM
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`Ilio Nui
`Olu`olu
USA
826 Posts |
Posted - 06/15/2005 : 03:56:32 AM
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Gordon,
I don't know if Atta's C is the best tuning yet, but to work out Makana's version, the chords do seem to fit easily. That's also the tuning that Ikaika Brown plays it in for live performances. I actually cheated and went to standard tuning to figure out the chord structure. Makana plays it in the key of F and starts with the basic II - V - I - VI, so the first chord is Gm7. In the middle it modulates to a brief Bb section for the II -V -I (Cm7) and it seems that the passing tone to get back to F is a Bbm11. In some of those sections he plays single note passages, so I used what limited theory I have to figure the chords.
It's a great diddy,
Dave |
Edited by - `Ilio Nui on 06/15/2005 04:00:32 AM |
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thumbstruck
Ahonui
USA
2164 Posts |
Posted - 06/16/2005 : 03:09:53 AM
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| I've fooled with the tune in "Taropatch", there being 3 forms or block chords that give a "steel" sound on the high strings while the bass can be used- I use my thumb on the low string. Minors can be played if you can fret 2 strings with your index finger on the low G and middle D. Just a thought. |
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Karl Monetti
`Olu`olu
USA
756 Posts |
Posted - 06/16/2005 : 08:13:30 AM
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Gordo,
the guzzintas i am familiar with are in picture puzzles, where the guzzintas go into the guzroundas.
Where'd jethro come from? that's my son's name, or were you apologiziong to Jethro Burns for some musical faux pas we don;t know about?
this "How Do You Do" thread was visited somtime last year, and there were several helpful responses at that time. I have no idea how to search archives, but yo may find some help there. Don't know what the original post was. |
Karl
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jmk
Lokahi
USA
115 Posts |
Posted - 06/16/2005 : 11:10:19 AM
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I don't know if this helps anyone in transcribing How'd Ya Do, but Jeff Peterson did his version in Taropatch, according to liner notes on a New Natives CD.
I tried to search it, but couldn't get the old posts to come up. |
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Kapila Kane
Ha`aha`a
USA
1051 Posts |
Posted - 06/16/2005 : 10:01:13 PM
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What's the first thing you know...?
Ya know, sometimes I think I talk theory just to make lawyers feel insecure.
It's fun if ya know it...scarry if ya don't.
And does get ridiculous...
We need kanikapila and to watch and learn.
I mean listen to Dave Guard's interfiew with Gabby about how he does his C tuning...and well, you don't have to be a musicoligist to play...in fact it's probably better.
Jethro, is of course my mentor...Jethro Bodean
...and the first thing you know is...
OL' JED'S A MILLIONAIRE!
Meanwhile, back at the topic...
and I'm still lookin' for my spellin' jean.
Hey, it's gonna be a full moon next week...is that a good thing?
Anyhow, the opening chords work well in Taro...but I drop the 6th to C.
which some call Leonard's (Kwan) C.
But I haven't spent enough time in Atta's C...yet. |
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Kapila Kane
Ha`aha`a
USA
1051 Posts |
Posted - 06/16/2005 : 10:07:49 PM
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I believe ya can search by any keyword that was used...
so "Atta's C"
or "How do ya do"...
or if you're Eddie Murphy...
"get the heck out of here", or something like that.
I'm turning in--no more searches tonight, just a 2 AM howl and I'm outta here. |
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Karl Monetti
`Olu`olu
USA
756 Posts |
Posted - 06/17/2005 : 07:32:45 AM
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K.K.,
forget the howl, just hop on the plane to camp and watch Don Kaulia play it there.......he said in his post that he would be playing the song there. And, he is the one who responded last year saying you could play one of the passages out of the F position, whatever that is.
Be sure to bring your video camera so you can watch it at home as you learn it.
See, simple solutions...just add money and time |
Karl
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