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rd2ruin
Akahai
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 Posted - 09/19/2002 : 01:58:47 AM
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I was there eating some Chinese food, watching some TV with the sound off (as I'm prone to do), and listening to Ledward's "Kanaka Waiwai". He plays it on an autoharp, and I've been trying to get something that had a little different sound like for one of my songs that's chord based.
So I fiddled with a chopstick until I was eventually bouncing it off and dragging it across the strings, giving a 'psuedo' autoharp sound. Doesn't work well with a pen though ... darn thing kept slipping out of my fingertips.
Anyway, I was wondering if anyone else out there has found little different effects to enhance some songs that just sound better than fingerpickin' em'. Outside of the 'dangling needle' of course  .
Cheers!
- Greg
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kihoalukid
Lokahi
USA
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Posted - 09/19/2002 : 3:02:43 PM
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| couple things come to mind, ive heard Keola put a matchbook cover under the strings at the bridge giving it a muted sound, i know theres a song on Mauna Kea where he does this.something else id never seen, was on the "The Hawaiian Way" , the Eddie Kamae video on slack key, where instead if picking the strings, you use your right hand fingers to hammer on and pull off notes, while the left hand frets as normal. this was demonstrated by Manu Kahaialii, not many who play this style. anyone who plays/played rock guitar could see this as a basic form of tapping, taken to the extreme by rockers like Van Halen, who i admit i tried without much success to emulate in my small kid time haha. |
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marzullo
`Olu`olu
USA
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Posted - 09/20/2002 : 03:55:13 AM
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doesn't keola play a song by sort of slapping the strings? it's a weird effect but very effective.
the weirdest effect i've heard of was how this one person played the ukulele with his teeth. i didn't see this, but heard it from ray sakuma. apparently he got frustrated at one point and started biting his uke, and realized that he liked the sound. ray said that his fretboard down where he bit it was a mess.
i'm still trying to work in led's "bend the neck move" into some of my songs...
aloha,
keith
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Pupule
USA
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Posted - 09/20/2002 : 1:50:50 PM
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doesn't keola play a song by sort of slapping the strings? it's a weird effect but very effective.
Thanks to Auntie Maria, you can reference the sound sample of Makee `Ailana which is on the album titled Island Born.
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Pauline Leland
`Olu`olu
USA
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Posted - 09/20/2002 : 6:00:50 PM
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Thanks for the link Andy. Hmm, do I like the sound? It's growing on me. A bit.
I think Michael Hedges is supposed to be the usual example of tapping, etc, on acoustic. I wonder who does on nylon? |
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Pupule
USA
4551 Posts |
Posted - 09/20/2002 : 9:51:40 PM
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| After first hearing Makee `Ailana on CD and then later seeing Keola play it live, my first impression was that the effect was far more impactful in live performance. At first I did not like the recorded version as much. It has grown on me over time, and I've come to really appreciate this arrangement for the percussive effect Keola gets out of his guitar. |
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Reid
Ha`aha`a
Andorra
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Posted - 09/24/2002 : 1:56:20 PM
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Andy is really right about the live verion vs. the recorded one. Sarah and I had gotten Island Born and listened to it before we went to Camp and didn't think too much about it. When Keola played Makee `Ailana during the "staff concert", my heart actually stopped. This is *not* a "figure of speech". It was simply astonishing what emotion leapt from his playing and that percussive technique. So, it is certainly not a gimmick, and this loops back to another discussion about emotion and making mistakes, etc. Keola's playing that night was certainly not a mistake, but emotion counts for a *lot* and Keola was filled to overflowing that week. Don't judge the technique by that recording.
There are reasons that there are lots of "Live" albums out there.
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marzullo
`Olu`olu
USA
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Posted - 09/25/2002 : 1:30:50 PM
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reid, i agree; i first heard keola play it live. i was not as enthralled with keola as with other artists, but we went to hear him play with ozzie and george jr. in whittier. "makee 'ailana" live was riveting... more broadly, keola live was something quite different from him on recordings.
cheers,
keith
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