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Fran Guidry
Ha`aha`a

USA
1579 Posts

Posted - 01/30/2007 :  4:11:15 PM  Show Profile  Visit Fran Guidry's Homepage
Marty Robbins and Jerry Byrd doing "Beyond the Reef."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_oaEw0p3js

Check the sweet dobro tone and Marty's Martin 5-18.

Fran

E ho`okani pila kakou ma Kaleponi
Slack Key Guitar in California - www.kaleponi.com
Slack Key on YouTube
Homebrewed Music Blog

hapakid
Luna Ho`omalu

USA
1533 Posts

Posted - 01/31/2007 :  8:16:34 PM  Show Profile  Visit hapakid's Homepage
He nani no!
Does anyone know if that little guitar is in standard tuning or something higher?
Jesse Tinsley
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Fran Guidry
Ha`aha`a

USA
1579 Posts

Posted - 02/01/2007 :  07:13:02 AM  Show Profile  Visit Fran Guidry's Homepage
Jesse, I just checked - Marty starts off saying "Give me a D" and then appears to me to be playing in the key of D. If I'm correct about the chords he's using, he's in standard tuning.

Fran

E ho`okani pila kakou ma Kaleponi
Slack Key Guitar in California - www.kaleponi.com
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slipry1
Ha`aha`a

USA
1511 Posts

Posted - 02/01/2007 :  10:06:55 AM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Fran Guidry

Jesse, I just checked - Marty starts off saying "Give me a D" and then appears to me to be playing in the key of D. If I'm correct about the chords he's using, he's in standard tuning.

Fran


WOW! Marty Robbins AND Jerry Byrd! Indeed, Fran, Marty is playing D chords. Jerry is in a C6th tuning, I believe. note how he starts on the second fret to play the first D chord, and the 4 chord is on the 7th and the 5 chord is on the 9th. I've got to copy this video and steal a few licks from the master! I'd like to see all of "Maui Chimes". To get to an A7 tuning, all he has to do is tune the C to a C#. The C6 tuning, from bottom to top is: G (flat 7th for A) E G A C E, so he moves the C to C# and off he goes.

keaka
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Basil Henriques
Lokahi

United Kingdom
225 Posts

Posted - 07/25/2007 :  01:24:51 AM  Show Profile  Visit Basil Henriques's Homepage
I posted those clips on YouTube, to save you having to search, these are the lot.
Some really educational material here.
I'll post the second programme as soon as I can obtain a copy and encode it.

In Chronolgical order as per the show :-

1. Beyond the Reef
2. The Night I came ashore
3. The Sea and Me
4. Kohala March
5. Unknow Hula
6. My wonderful One
7. Maui Chimes / aloha Oe


1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_oaEw0p3js

2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKooaE9DocU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HC5rOUw71-A

3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j34OZ9iX4Qc]

http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum13/HTML/001399.html The sea and Me CHORDS Discussion

4. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0RvvAfcBtY

(Composed by (Heinrich) Henry Berger, seen standing behind queen Lilioukalani)



More about Henry :-

http://starbulletin.com/2005/01/23/features/story1.html Royal Hawaiian Band


5. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDJ3Rspx0LY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xICkMA4Pd-s Preamble to Wonderful One

6. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkfV_2fXWJU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sfb5vsY-GmE Preamble to Maui Chimes

7. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbtGJYtTb2c


You can download the complete show here :-

http://www.waikiki-islanders.com/assets/marty-jerry-b%252fw.mov

Right click and "Save As"
It's a Black and white version, small size.(You can change the viewing size in you computer after download.)


Basil Henriques

Edited by - Basil Henriques on 08/14/2007 10:19:29 PM
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Basil Henriques
Lokahi

United Kingdom
225 Posts

Posted - 07/25/2007 :  01:32:54 AM  Show Profile  Visit Basil Henriques's Homepage
There WAS at one time some doubt as to whether the guitar he played in the Marty Robbins "Drifter" series was just a "Prop" borrowed for the shoot and not even played "Live" :- Well, the 'Playing Live' has been discussed and "Put to Bed" so to speak.

Definitive proof is in this video that the reso WAS a seven string, and the fact that Jerry's preference was for seven string tunings would lead one to believe that the guitar he played was his own.

(I don't think seven string resos would be a very common prop around the TV studios in the mid 60's !)

http://www.waikiki-islanders.com/assets/sevenstring.mov

Edited by - Basil Henriques on 08/14/2007 10:18:05 PM
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slipry1
Ha`aha`a

USA
1511 Posts

Posted - 07/27/2007 :  09:22:50 AM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Basil Henriques

There WAS at one time some doubt as to whether the guitar he played in the Marty Robbins "Drifter" series was just a "Prop" borrowed for the shoot and not even played "Live" :- Well, the 'Playing Live' has been discussed and "Put to Bed" so to speak.

Definitive proof is in this video that the reso WAS a seven string, and the fact that Jerry's preference was for seven string tunings would lead one to believe that the guitar he played was his own.

(I don't think seven string resos would be a very common prop around the TV studios in the mid 60's !)






http://www.waikiki-islanders.com/assets/sevenstring.mov



I didn't notice how many strings when I looked at the video. I'll have to look at your links when I get home tonight. Jerry preferred 8 string steels, because they were hot when he was in Nashville, and the tunings on 8 strings permit more flexibilty when gigging. If it is a 7 string, it probably is what was called a "shoBro", made by Shot Jackson staring in the late 40's. His (and Jules Ah See's etc) B11 tuning is actually an A6 on the top 4 strings, with an E on the top (F# A C E, going up). This is what you need to do "How'd Ya Do" and "Sand". I put a G on the top of my G13 tuning so I can play "How'd Ya Do" in C, like Gabby did (he used an 8 string as well - look at him playing in his yard in Waimanolo on the Sons of Hawaii video) and listen to "Blue Hawaiian Moonlight" on the Gabby Band V1 (although he overdubs himself twice - 3 steels for the price of 1!). I'm torn on which tuning I'm going to use on my Frypan 8 - probably C13.

keaka
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Basil Henriques
Lokahi

United Kingdom
225 Posts

Posted - 07/27/2007 :  3:26:46 PM  Show Profile  Visit Basil Henriques's Homepage
Mmmm, Sand ?, Like this .....
















And of course the words


AND the real deal http://www.waikiki-islanders.com/assets/sand.mp3

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noeau
Ha`aha`a

USA
1105 Posts

Posted - 07/27/2007 :  8:42:02 PM  Show Profile
This is awesome. You are one heck of a resource. Mahalo

No'eau, eia au he mea pa'ani wale nō.
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slipry1
Ha`aha`a

USA
1511 Posts

Posted - 07/28/2007 :  07:05:28 AM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by noeau

This is awesome. You are one heck of a resource. Mahalo


Awesome, indeed! Yes, that's it. The tuning listed is B11. Note that he is playing a Fender double 8 Stringmaster, my steel of choice for gigs on page 11, then a single 8 Stringmaster on page 15. I got my tab from the Jerry Byrd course.

keaka
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Basil Henriques
Lokahi

United Kingdom
225 Posts

Posted - 07/28/2007 :  2:16:51 PM  Show Profile  Visit Basil Henriques's Homepage
Actually slipry1 it's two delux 8's BUT I have just acquired a 26" scale length twin 8 Stringmaster Mk 1 in bad shape, BUT it will live again.


This is another of my non pedal ones,



taken on our last visit to Kaneohe

Some good reading here on the history of slack key and Hawaiian Guitar. http://www.waikiki-islanders.com/assets/Slack%20Key%20etc%20PDFs/

Edited by - Basil Henriques on 08/14/2007 10:20:19 PM
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