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alika207
Ha`aha`a
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 Posted - 10/07/2007 : 2:57:58 PM
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Aroha!
I wanted to know if anybody knows whether there's a translation for the Tahitian in this Jimmy Buffett song. I think it's like:
Iara, tena tura, a me aroha, te au nei.
Anybody know?
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He kehau ho'oma'ema'e ke aloha.
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Podagee57
Lokahi
USA
280 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2007 : 08:48:05 AM
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Ia ora te natura...........
Nature lives (life to nature)
E mea arofa teie ao nei....
Have pity for the earth (love the earth)
Ua pau te maitai no te fenua
Te zai noa ra te ora o te mitie.....
Bounty of the land is exhausted
but there's still abundance in the sea
Don't exactly know when or where I got this...nor how accurate it is. I printed the lyrics from a web-site some years ago and the translation was included.
Parrot Heads forever! haha
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What? You mean high "E" is the TOP string. No way dude! That changes everything! |
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noeau
Ha`aha`a
USA
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Posted - 10/08/2007 : 09:24:41 AM
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Close to Hawaiian. Puakea once told a story of going to Tahiti and speaking Hawaiian and being understood.
If you take the time you can see where some letters could be switched. L for R, F for H, T for K, Natura would be a Tahitianized English word. Which is interesting because the other language in Tahiti is French. |
No'eau, eia au he mea pa'ani wale nō. |
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Lawrence
Ha`aha`a
USA
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Posted - 10/08/2007 : 09:54:55 AM
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My understanding is that Jimmy "borrowed" those words from
an existing Tahitian folksong. You might be able to find
the original (and possibly the rest of the lyrics) with
some diligent searching.
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Mahope Kākou...
...El Lorenzo de Ondas Sonoras |
Edited by - Lawrence on 10/08/2007 1:29:50 PM |
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hwnmusiclives
`Olu`olu
USA
580 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2007 : 09:58:59 AM
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Originally posted by noeau
Close to Hawaiian. Puakea once told a story of going to Tahiti and speaking Hawaiian and being understood.
If you take the time you can see where some letters could be switched. L for R, F for H, T for K, Natura would be a Tahitianized English word. Which is interesting because the other language in Tahiti is French.
Basic vocabulary - not grammar, just vocabulary - among all the Polynesian languages is eerily similar - showing how each is an outgrowth from the others. A kumu hula once showed me a comparative dictionary of Polynesian languages - look up the English word and see the equivalent in Hawaiian, Tahitian, Maori, Tongan, and others - and in each case the similarities were striking.
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Sarah
`Olu`olu
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Posted - 10/08/2007 : 10:52:54 AM
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Noeau's point about French is interesting. Actually, "nature" is French, too, and English got it from the French. French got it from the Latin, "natura".
In addition, with French pronunciation, the final "e" is actually voiced lightly (easy to adapt to a final "a"). |
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alika207
Ha`aha`a
USA
1260 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2007 : 11:09:15 AM
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| Mahalo to all you guys! Great song. I think my favorite, however, would be "Cheeseburger In Paradise," "Margaritaville," or "Volcano." What's yours, for all you Jimmy fans out there? |
He kehau ho'oma'ema'e ke aloha.
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rendesvous1840
Ha`aha`a
USA
1055 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2007 : 11:14:38 AM
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http://www.nzetc.org/tm/scholarly/tei-WillDict-t1-body-d1-d10.html
Well, I pasted the phrase from Alika's post into the browser, and got the Maori Dictionary. That's a start, I reckon. As I understand, there's a lot of similarity to all the Polynesian/ Micronesian/ Melanesian languages. I don't know if this site will point to a whole song or not, but it's interesting to explore. Go to the home page, click on advanced search, and paste in the lyrics. I tried both spellings in the posts above. There are several thousand hits, applying to various words, but not the whole 1st phrase.It referenced Folk Song Collections from The Cook Islands, and probably other places. No translations, so far. But I've only spent 6-7 minutes.
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"A master banjo player isn't the person who can pick the most notes.It's the person who can touch the most hearts." Patrick Costello |
Edited by - rendesvous1840 on 10/08/2007 11:37:04 AM |
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Lawrence
Ha`aha`a
USA
1597 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2007 : 11:38:26 AM
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If this helps:
There is an organization in Tahiti with the same name as the first verse of the Tahitian lyrics:
Association pour la Protection de la Nature en Polynésie Française (Ia Ora Te Natura) (Association for Protection of Nature in French Polynesia), B.P. 3584, Papeete, Tahiti
There is also a poem written by Tahitian/Polynesian poet Henri Hiro, (who was a resident of Moorea when Jimmy visited), that "keys" on the same words, but I cannot find the poem. (and I cannot read french well enough to search for it intelligently). Henri has biographical write-up in the French wikipedia but once again my language skills are not good enough to decipher.
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Mahope Kākou...
...El Lorenzo de Ondas Sonoras |
Edited by - Lawrence on 10/08/2007 12:06:27 PM |
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Podagee57
Lokahi
USA
280 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2007 : 08:00:14 AM
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Originally posted by hawaiianmusicfan138
Mahalo to all you guys! Great song. I think my favorite, however, would be "Cheeseburger In Paradise," "Margaritaville," or "Volcano." What's yours, for all you Jimmy fans out there?
Wow, there are so many of them...I think I have every Buffett CD there is, and that's a lot. Some of my favs:
Nobody Speaks To The Captain No More
What If The Hokey-Pokey Is All It Really Is About?
There's just too many. Floridays is one of my favorite albums though. |
What? You mean high "E" is the TOP string. No way dude! That changes everything! |
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alika207
Ha`aha`a
USA
1260 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2007 : 2:13:37 PM
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Aloha,
I don't think I know those two songs you mentioned. Are they on albums that were made at the beginning of his career?
Oh, another one I really like is "It's Five O'clock Somewhere."
BTW, what album is the studio version on? I only have the live version from Hawai'i. Isn't that a great CD and DVD? I think that concert would have been so much fun to attend! |
He kehau ho'oma'ema'e ke aloha.
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rendesvous1840
Ha`aha`a
USA
1055 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2007 : 3:53:45 PM
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Volcano, You'll Never Work In Dis Bidness Again, and Boat Drinks. Something about the line: "This morning I shot 6 holes in my freezer; I think I've got cabin fever"
sums up my thoughts on winter perfectly.
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"A master banjo player isn't the person who can pick the most notes.It's the person who can touch the most hearts." Patrick Costello |
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Lawrence
Ha`aha`a
USA
1597 Posts |
Posted - 10/11/2007 : 06:07:00 AM
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Banana Republics (or anything by Steve Goodman)
Right on! - He is one of my favorite writer's too!!
(and passed away much too soon)
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Mahope Kākou...
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justinalderfer
Aloha
USA
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Posted - 10/15/2007 : 04:54:33 AM
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Being a Florida Boy I can relate to Jimmy all to well! By the way, "Pirate Looks at Forty" sounds the best in G major Taro Patch. I just missed meeting Jimmy on the island of Anegada in the British Virgin Islands a few years back. I would have loved to have played that for him in open tuning. Our new anthem in East Coast Central Florida is "Trying To Reason With Hurricane Season". One of my personal favorites.
Aloha oukou |
ka loku mele kaona |
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