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LovinLK
Lokahi
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 Posted - 10/03/2008 : 7:25:01 PM
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You might want to contact your local library and get a copy of the Charles E. King songbooks. There are two of them and they have the kind of simple arrangements you're probably looking for.
When I needed choral arrangements, I contacted Randie Fong at Kam Schools and asked for certain songs I heard at song contest and he gladly sent me the ones I requested.
You can also get Hawaiian hymnals with the words in Hawaiian like at Kawaiaha'o or Ha'ili Church in Hilo. There's also a Hawaiian church on Maui where I borrowed the hymn book, made copies of the hymns I wanted in Hana and returned the book to the church in Keanae on my way back. |
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alika207
Ha`aha`a
USA
1260 Posts |
Posted - 10/04/2008 : 06:43:44 AM
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Originally posted by LovinLK
You might want to contact your local library and get a copy of the Charles E. King songbooks. There are two of them and they have the kind of simple arrangements you're probably looking for.
When I needed choral arrangements, I contacted Randie Fong at Kam Schools and asked for certain songs I heard at song contest and he gladly sent me the ones I requested.
You can also get Hawaiian hymnals with the words in Hawaiian like at Kawaiaha'o or Ha'ili Church in Hilo. There's also a Hawaiian church on Maui where I borrowed the hymn book, made copies of the hymns I wanted in Hana and returned the book to the church in Keanae on my way back.
Mahalo nui loa e Marguerite. I'll definitely check those out. Still no response from KS. |
He kehau ho'oma'ema'e ke aloha.
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alika207
Ha`aha`a
USA
1260 Posts |
Posted - 01/07/2009 : 01:34:18 AM
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| Just the other day, I called Rosanna from Manoa Voices and had a lovely conversation with her. She was suggesting songs from The Queen's Songbook, as well as the Kimo Henderson Hula by Lina Machado. Interestingly enough, she also mentioned the Doxology, which was one of my own thoughts. I was thinking that one because the tune is one that lots of people over here would recognize. At the end of the call, I asked if they would be doing anything the week that I'm gonna be on Moku O Keawe, and she said they didn't have anything scheduled and told me to e-mail her the dates because they may be able to do something then. How cool is that? |
He kehau ho'oma'ema'e ke aloha.
'Alika / Polinahe |
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Kapila Kane
Ha`aha`a
USA
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Posted - 01/07/2009 : 07:54:50 AM
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There must be a plethora of written things out there.
Between the missionary influences, education and church music over the years, and the natural musical abilities of people who came to or lived on the Hawaiian islands...
The music libraries of schools, churches and community choirs must have things...
Like keeping slack key alive through sharing, not holding ones precious secrets.
It'd be fun to see how much is out there extant and already arranged ...
Then,
To pair it down where needed for younger voices...
maybe 2 parts paired down from 3 or 4...
Melody plus a harmony...or maybe just melody...
I bet I could get our 5th grade vocal teachers interested if there's some written stuff..both words and at least melody in written notation.
Add uke or maybe a SIMPLE string part for violins and cellos and violas!
In D or G of course...I'm thinkin' 5th grades level....
but I've had some good and even great players at times.
So far, in our schools in Colorado, indeed I've seen more "Happa-Haole" Pseudo-Hawaiian....
sorta good for cute stuff or a cheap laugh...but MISSING the chance to show a true, deeper art and dig in to a potential teachable anchor concept ...for an developing more authentic Hawaiian culture song and culture concepts... educating not only the kids, but also the families and communities that come to see what their kids and the teachers have been doing all day.
We get enough superficial stuff on American Idol!
Maybe this lower common "Hollywood Hawaiian" is why people grow up to think that the superficial, tin-pan allelyesque stuff is real...and plop down on the beach to be waited on.
And passively observe "tourist culture" as the best they can do.
I could get my 2nd year strings to do some melodies...maybe with choral ...and it'd be great to see some true Hawaiian choreography with kids.
Teachers are always looking, and some of the stuff is just insulting...4th and 5th graders are capable of getting a little deeper artistic challenges.
As to the limitations of Religious stuff...
while we have to watch it...we are allowed to explore and present music of world cultures and that has to include religion...so much literature and history comes from our belief that have created our world.
So while we may not get to do Silent Night with candles...(they are memorable), we can do quite a bit, even when we have be a little cautious...
So, back to choral stuff...
what have we got IN PRINT, (mostly ready to go) ...and perhaps with some music notation? I'll work out the secular/religious balance point! |
Edited by - Kapila Kane on 01/07/2009 07:58:24 AM |
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alika207
Ha`aha`a
USA
1260 Posts |
Posted - 01/08/2009 : 4:12:58 PM
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Originally posted by Kapila Kane
There must be a plethora of written things out there.
Between the missionary influences, education and church music over the years, and the natural musical abilities of people who came to or lived on the Hawaiian islands...
The music libraries of schools, churches and community choirs must have things...
Like keeping slack key alive through sharing, not holding ones precious secrets.
It'd be fun to see how much is out there extant and already arranged ...
Then,
To pair it down where needed for younger voices...
maybe 2 parts paired down from 3 or 4...
Melody plus a harmony...or maybe just melody...
I bet I could get our 5th grade vocal teachers interested if there's some written stuff..both words and at least melody in written notation.
Add uke or maybe a SIMPLE string part for violins and cellos and violas!
In D or G of course...I'm thinkin' 5th grades level....
but I've had some good and even great players at times.
So far, in our schools in Colorado, indeed I've seen more "Happa-Haole" Pseudo-Hawaiian....
sorta good for cute stuff or a cheap laugh...but MISSING the chance to show a true, deeper art and dig in to a potential teachable anchor concept ...for an developing more authentic Hawaiian culture song and culture concepts... educating not only the kids, but also the families and communities that come to see what their kids and the teachers have been doing all day.
We get enough superficial stuff on American Idol!
Maybe this lower common "Hollywood Hawaiian" is why people grow up to think that the superficial, tin-pan allelyesque stuff is real...and plop down on the beach to be waited on.
And passively observe "tourist culture" as the best they can do.
I could get my 2nd year strings to do some melodies...maybe with choral ...and it'd be great to see some true Hawaiian choreography with kids.
Teachers are always looking, and some of the stuff is just insulting...4th and 5th graders are capable of getting a little deeper artistic challenges.
As to the limitations of Religious stuff...
while we have to watch it...we are allowed to explore and present music of world cultures and that has to include religion...so much literature and history comes from our belief that have created our world.
So while we may not get to do Silent Night with candles...(they are memorable), we can do quite a bit, even when we have be a little cautious...
So, back to choral stuff...
what have we got IN PRINT, (mostly ready to go) ...and perhaps with some music notation? I'll work out the secular/religious balance point!
Yes, that would be wonderful! I would say to have just two parts or have everybody sing melody if you were teaching fifth graders. I hadn't started singing in a three-part choir until seventh grade. In fifth and sixth, we just had sopranos and altos. |
He kehau ho'oma'ema'e ke aloha.
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mpi_50
Lokahi
USA
133 Posts |
Posted - 01/15/2009 : 11:19:29 AM
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| During my sophomore year at Kamehameha the boys choir did Ku'u Pua Maeole and it was the best, of course the seniors won. |
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hikabe
Lokahi
USA
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Posted - 01/15/2009 : 2:58:08 PM
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| I can arrange any song you wish for a choral group. Let me know... |
Stay Tuned... |
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alika207
Ha`aha`a
USA
1260 Posts |
Posted - 01/17/2009 : 5:26:50 PM
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Originally posted by mpi_50
During my sophomore year at Kamehameha the boys choir did Ku'u Pua Maeole and it was the best, of course the seniors won.
Why did you say "of course?" The seniors haven't always won. The sophomores won the coed last year with their beautiful rendition of Keali'i Reichel's "Ka Nohona Pili Kai." |
He kehau ho'oma'ema'e ke aloha.
'Alika / Polinahe |
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alika207
Ha`aha`a
USA
1260 Posts |
Posted - 01/17/2009 : 5:27:28 PM
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Originally posted by hikabe
I can arrange any song you wish for a choral group. Let me know...
Mahalo, Hiram! I will let you know. |
He kehau ho'oma'ema'e ke aloha.
'Alika / Polinahe |
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