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Auntie Maria
Ha`aha`a
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wcerto
Ahonui
USA
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 Posted - 02/12/2009 : 05:57:23 AM
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Me ke aloha
Malama pono,
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Kaiulani
Akahai
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Posted - 02/12/2009 : 06:56:31 AM
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Aloha Kakou,
Honolulu Advertiser..."It doesn't matter that she's not Native Hawaiian. (She has identified her racial background as Filipino, Chinese, Spanish.) You don't have to have the blood to be a great Hawaiian musician. But you do have to have the heart — and "heart" defined as not how much you like Hawaiian music, but how much you've lived it."
Right on...100%
Me Ke Aloha,
Ka'iulani
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Me Ke Aloha,
Ka'iulani
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guitarded
Ha`aha`a
USA
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Posted - 02/12/2009 : 07:28:43 AM
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Originally written by Lee Cataluna in the Honolulu Advertiser
Carrere said it herself in her Grammy acceptance speech:
"I am not worthy. I am truly not worthy of the people in this room that have done so much."
If she truly meant what she said, then maybe she should return the award which would not only elevate her status in the eyes of Hawaiian music and ki ho'alu fans, but it could also, through her name recognition, draw the much needed attention from the power brokers -- the Grammy Awards voters -- which could hopefully lead to giving them an incentive to educate themselves further and open their eyes wide enough to alter what their preconceived notions as to what Hawaiian music really is, or isn't, as they pertain to the Grammy Awards.
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cpatch
Ahonui
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Posted - 02/12/2009 : 08:51:02 AM
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Originally posted by guitarded
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Originally written by Lee Cataluna in the Honolulu Advertiser
Carrere said it herself in her Grammy acceptance speech:
"I am not worthy. I am truly not worthy of the people in this room that have done so much."
If she truly meant what she said, then maybe she should return the award which would not only elevate her status in the eyes of Hawaiian music and ki ho'alu fans, but it could also, through her name recognition, draw the much needed attention from the power brokers -- the Grammy Awards voters -- which could hopefully lead to giving them an incentive to educate themselves further and open their eyes wide enough to alter what their preconceived notions as to what Hawaiian music really is, or isn't, as they pertain to the Grammy Awards.
Who was in the room when she said this? I assumed she was talking to artists from all genres, not just the other Hawai`ian nominees. |
Craig
My goal is to be able to play as well as people think I can. |
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hapakid
Luna Ho`omalu
USA
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Posted - 02/12/2009 : 09:08:21 AM
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I think she was looking at the other nominees. I won't speculate where the other nominees were looking....
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guitarded
Ha`aha`a
USA
1799 Posts |
Posted - 02/12/2009 : 09:26:28 AM
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Originally posted by hapakid
I think she was looking at the other nominees.
So did I. I recall seeing a short video clip of her making that statement and she seemed to be directing her remarks at a specific area in the audience in front of her. |
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PearlCityBoy
Lokahi
USA
432 Posts |
Posted - 02/12/2009 : 12:43:20 PM
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(1) I like Uncle Keith Haugen’s response to Cataluna’s article:
Aloha:
While everyone is having fun by "piling on" to knock Tia Carerre and Daniel Ho's Grammy win, I find it difficult to join in. They were not my choice, but I congratulate them nonetheless. Both are very talented artists and I wish them well.
And you don't have to be Hawaiian to sing, play, write, speak or teach Hawaiian.
Over the past 50 years, I've known hundreds of non-Hawaiian practitioners who were very good at what they did, better than most. We know of many who preceded us and who excelled, despite a lack of koko Hawai`i ... and many are still around.
A few names that come to mind are Lorenzo Lyons, Henry Berger, Johnny Noble, Samuel Elbert, `Ioli`i Hawkins, Puakea Nogelmeier, Alex Abing, The Badurias, Peter Dillingham, Peter Moon, Jake Shimabukuro, Ron Miyashiro, Frank Uehara, Ray Sowders, Kent Ghirard, Kaori Etoh, Agnes Kimura, a pela aku.
Haole wale no ko lakou `ili, aka, i loko i ko lakou na`au, he Hawai`i lakou.
Me ka pono,
Keith Haugen
Nu`uanu
02/12/2009 4:52:43 a.m.
(2) Separate but somewhat related thought to this post and to other recent ones, and with no disrespect intended, here’s a chronology of the Hoku’s Ki’ho’alu award. I wonder which, if any, of the recipients were “pono” enough not to accept the award because someone “more deserving” did not get recognized before them. With that being said, I suspect that most, if not all, acknowledged their teachers/influences when receiving their awards.
I also wonder who was on the Hoku’s “Ki’ho’alu” committee that selects the nominees/winners each year. What criteria did they use? Do they know what “real” slack key is? Are there any slack key artists on the committee? Similar to the comments on Daniel Ho, I’ve heard criticism that some on the list don’t play “real” and/or traditional slack key. Should they get criticized publicly too?
2008: Jeff Peterson
2007: David Kahiapo
2006: Kapono Beamer
2005: Dennis Kamakahi
2004: Ozzie Kotani
2003: John Keawe
2002: George Kuo
2001: Peter Moon
2000: George Winston
1999: KCCN and KINE radio
1998: Keola Beamer
1997: Cyril Pahinui
1996: Haunani Apoliona
1995: Led Kaapana
1994: Leonard Kwan
1993: Ray Kane
1992: Sonny Chillingworth
1991: Gabby Pahinui and Atta Isaacs
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RJS
Ha`aha`a
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Posted - 02/12/2009 : 3:50:09 PM
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Hey, even if I felt unworthy, but somehow was voted a grammy, no way I would give it back.
People are taking this thing much too seriously, and much to literally.
Also, Grammy members at large aren't going to educate themselves to Hawaiian music and more than they will to any other genre. Get your body on the mailand, perform all over the place, get press, you'll be in the running, too. But, gosh, now I'm guilty of taking it too seriously, too. |
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guitarded
Ha`aha`a
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1799 Posts |
Posted - 02/12/2009 : 4:49:11 PM
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Originally posted by RJS
Hey, even if I felt unworthy, but somehow was voted a grammy, no way I would give it back.
People are taking this thing much too seriously, and much to literally.
Also, Grammy members at large aren't going to educate themselves to Hawaiian music and more than they will to any other genre. Get your body on the mailand, perform all over the place, get press, you'll be in the running, too. But, gosh, now I'm guilty of taking it too seriously, too.
Hey Raymond, we're taking this way too seriously. If I was Tia, I'd probably keep the Grammy myself.  What I scribbled back there was mostly wishful thinking born out of the frustration of realizing that the rest of the music world will probably not "get it", as far as being able to distinguish what authentic ki ho'alu and Hawaiian music is, within my lifetime.
Until that happens, I can envision the Daniel Ho's and Tia Carrere's of the world shrewdly working the system, as it stands today, to their advantage while collecting Grammy Awards along the way. Decades from now those Grammies will still be proudly adorning a shelf somewhere, while any details or controversy that may have surrounded them will have been long forgotten.
Okay, going back to slacking my bebadees. |
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Retro
Ahonui
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Posted - 02/12/2009 : 7:36:15 PM
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Doug - thank you for your post. I'm in that camp, for the most part, and I DO vote on the Grammys.
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Carrere said it herself in her Grammy acceptance speech:
"I am not worthy."
She's making a reference to the "Wayne's World" movie in which she had a starring role. I don't think Lee got the joke.
Just curious, please be honest --- how many of you have heard the "`Ikena" CD that won this year? My review from November is here: http://www.northwesthawaiitimes.com/Music/greggnov08.htm#ho |
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Auntie Maria
Ha`aha`a
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1918 Posts |
Posted - 02/13/2009 : 05:41:08 AM
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PearlCityBoy -- regarding "(1) I like Uncle Keith Haugen’s response to Cataluna’s article:"...Keith Haugen should have added his name to the list, as he is himself a mainland transplant.
As for the Na Hoku Hanohano Awards for ki ho`alu, in recent times (since at least the 1990s) those awards have been given by Milton Lau and his sponsors. The recipients are not determined by the Hawai`i Academy of Recording Arts. Milton is responsible for the annual slack key festivals which are staged throughout Hawai`i. |
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guitarded
Ha`aha`a
USA
1799 Posts |
Posted - 02/13/2009 : 06:27:23 AM
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Originally posted by Auntie Maria
As for the Na Hoku Hanohano Awards for ki ho`alu, in recent times (since at least the 1990s) those awards have been given by Milton Lau and his sponsors. The recipients are not determined by the Hawai`i Academy of Recording Arts. Milton is responsible for the annual slack key festivals which are staged throughout Hawai`i.
Mahalo for that very interesting and insightful info, Auntie. I never knew that.
So in other words, if you're a performer of ki ho'alu and have any aspirations of gaining favorable exposure through the Na Hoku Hanohano Awards or the annual slack key festivals, then you'd better be on very good terms with Milton Lau -- or else.
Please tell me how wrong I am, Auntie. I really need to hear it. |
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Peter Medeiros
`Olu`olu
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Posted - 02/13/2009 : 06:45:13 AM
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Originally posted by guitarded
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Originally posted by Auntie Maria
As for the Na Hoku Hanohano Awards for ki ho`alu, in recent times (since at least the 1990s) those awards have been given by Milton Lau and his sponsors. The recipients are not determined by the Hawai`i Academy of Recording Arts. Milton is responsible for the annual slack key festivals which are staged throughout Hawai`i.
Mahalo for that very interesting and insightful info, Auntie. I never knew that.
So in other words, if you're a performer of ki ho'alu and have any aspirations of gaining favorable exposure through the Na Hoku Hanohano Awards or the annual slack key festivals, then you'd better be on very good terms with Milton Lau -- or else.
Please tell me how wrong I am, Auntie. I really need to hear it.
Eh bradda Ed,
No get too niele. You not supposed to ask questions lidat. Bumbai you gonna put aunty folks on da spot . Can cause legal trouble too. But mobetta you wen ax da question den me. You get's it. Waz won good won though.
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Fran Guidry
Ha`aha`a
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Retro
Ahonui
USA
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Posted - 02/13/2009 : 07:28:39 AM
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Originally posted by Auntie Maria
PearlCityBoy -- regarding "(1) I like Uncle Keith Haugen’s response to Cataluna’s article:"...Keith Haugen should have added his name to the list, as he is himself a mainland transplant.
And you would find your own name on such a list, too, Auntie, were it to be expanded in that direction. Yet none of us would question the great value your support of Hawaiian music has provided for many, many years.
I'm beginning to worry about restrictions of artistic miscegenation - perpetuated by attitudes that claim you cannot truly participate in any musical endeavors for which you cannot prove blood ancestry. I would hate to think that I can only play European music (or Blackfoot tribal, if certain deceased members of my family are to be believed). The arts are a human expression, not a racial one.
Norman - I like your comments, too. |
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