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cpatch
Ahonui
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 Posted - 03/02/2009 : 11:20:53 AM
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Originally posted by sirduke58
Relaxation techniques
1.)A few minutes before the encounter, sit down in a room by yourself and make yourself comfortable
2.)Do deep breathing exercises because it brings oxygen into your body.Inhale deeply through your nose & exhale slowly through an open mouth.Repeat 5 times.
3.) Then close your eyes and imagine yourself walking down a staircase.As you descend you'll say inwardly: Just relax,10 relax,9 relax,8 relax etc....until you reach the last step. You need not sat it out loud.
4.) When you wake up the encounter will be over, everyone will have left, and the source of your stress will be completely gone. |
Craig
My goal is to be able to play as well as people think I can. |
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Mika ele
Ha`aha`a
USA
1493 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2009 : 3:48:51 PM
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We (the SoCal Slack Key Society) perform in an Open Mike setting every Tuesday night at a little local Hawaiian Grille and Sushi place -- Kaisen's in Oceasnside. A few weeks ago, Chunky Monkey and I were just commenting to each other that we hadn't heard Dusty play a mistake in weeks and he was really sounding "especially fine' of late. Not two seconds after I muttered that, Dusty "played some jazz". We all broke out laughing real loud and hard. Which of course had Dusty giving us the "Stick Eye" from the stage. He laughed with us when he stepped down and we explained it all to him.
Point is, even the best players will goof up. That is not why we listen to live performance. Every now and then we get to hear something, or see something, really special that will never be repeated exactly that way again. It makes the moment unique and to be cherished.
Sometimes I think that dedicating time to practice and perform every week as an amateur musician is a huge and questionable use of my time. But when I get to hear some really memorable performances and rarely do one myself -- aha, that is worth the cost. |
E nana, e ho'olohe. E pa'a ka waha, e hana ka lima. |
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wdf
Ha`aha`a
USA
1154 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2009 : 4:11:37 PM
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That was just the alternate version....
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Edited by - wdf on 03/05/2009 4:20:50 PM |
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RJS
Ha`aha`a
1635 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2009 : 7:34:56 PM
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I think getting music ready to perform, and actually performing in public, is one of the best ways to "turbo boost" your abilities as a musician. Certainly our experience was that the people who performed at open mic typically got much better, faster.
I've said this before, but one of the factors which makes us more sensitive to making mistakes is the unreasonably high level of expectations we get from listening to most CD's. Most decent players can "record" a perfect piece if you're allowed a dozen takes and then a good engineer curs and pastes it together for a perfect recording. Not many players today record "one take" sessions. Even "live" classical performances are usually put together from 2 or 3 "live" performances. |
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Karl Monetti
`Olu`olu
USA
756 Posts |
Posted - 03/03/2009 : 08:46:55 AM
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Al, thank you, and I do believe i have gotten over it. I have talked with several people about that performance, and they thought it was good, and thought some was really good. A second person has asked me to be on a tv broadcast of live guitar music! Geez, what was I listening too? I know I had created my own demons by listening to everyone else's good performance then going back to work on mine backstage; by the tie I went on i was full of what-ifs.
The discussion about recordings; that brings me to another problem. My wife and daughter gave me 5 hours at a recording studio as a gift. I spent two hours in a friend's studio, doing several takes of maybe 8 or 9 songs. He made e a CD to listen to, to decide which we might want to keep.
They all stink! I think I am wasting his time and my loved one's money. I could spend all five hours on one tune and just might get it right. I have been wrestling with this since last week when he gave e the CD. I know I can record on Garage Band by myself and get something passable on my own time. Maybe I could use the balance of the gift money to purchase a recording program or something, and still end up with a nice product on my own. What experience do any of you have recording your own stuff? I spoke e briefly with Jeff Peterson last week about it and he said he records a lot of his stuff on Garage band. I don;t know that that is is his finished product, but he uses it a lot for something at least. I just hate to waste time or money,mine or anyone else's. |
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Karl Monetti
`Olu`olu
USA
756 Posts |
Posted - 03/03/2009 : 08:53:37 AM
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Al,
Regarding singing or playing one on one with a pro; I have done that, with John Keawe, Keola, Mike Dowling, playing their won compositions for them, and I did just fine. Last night i sat down with a fellow I met a few years back at an Alaskan guitar camp. He is a ragtime and fingerstyle player just learning slack key. He played a few tunes for me, and i for him, and there was no problem. One on one sees not to be the problem.
I have played the past 3 summers weekly solo gigs at a local theme park in front of anywhere form 5 to 30 people coming and going, no problem.
I had even played the same venue where i screwed up three times in the past.
I think I will just blame Congress (the Russians are so passe) and get on with my life. |
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noeau
Ha`aha`a
USA
1105 Posts |
Posted - 03/03/2009 : 10:50:07 AM
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Right on Karl. As far as recording at home I think it depends on what you are doing. For me it is the start and stop of atrack. I gotta move frm the computer to the chair and the chair squeeks when I sit down so I count to four and I pick up my instrument and that makes noise so I count to four again and i start. Then I cough so gotta start over and everything makes noise again and then the dog barks when the phone rings and about that time I pass wind and so I finally get started and i forget the words. Now if you going try multi tack for harmony and other instruments then you should mark the start eithe with a click to count in or just go a one and a two etc so you know where to start in. Donʻt forget to remember the song you originally recorded or it wonʻt work and you gotta start over again.
All kidding aside , many people have used garage band for recording. I havenʻt yet I have a program but it is rather difficult to do by yourself. Your computer might be noisy(fan noise) You have to sart and stop the recording. But with patience a fairly good recording can be achieved. Just listen To Ozʻs Hoʻihi and the last record that Lyle Ritz recorded in a hotel room no less. Main thing have fun and try not to be to disgusted with what you hear. Sometimes we just want it perfect and when we learn we not as good for real compared to what we tink we are we can move on and make some decent music. Good luck and have fun. |
No'eau, eia au he mea pa'ani wale nō. |
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Retro
Ahonui
USA
2368 Posts |
Posted - 03/03/2009 : 2:01:19 PM
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... about that time I pass wind and so ...
That's good to know. All this time, I thought I was hitting really bad notes on my bass when we were playing together. |
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Karl Monetti
`Olu`olu
USA
756 Posts |
Posted - 03/03/2009 : 2:13:40 PM
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Hookani
Lokahi
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Posted - 03/03/2009 : 2:47:52 PM
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Regarding recording at home: I use all portable equipment so I can usually take it where I want to as long as there is power. There is a free multitrack recording program that is awesome, it's called Reaper and rivals a lot of expensive programs. The equipment I use is my laptop and an M-Audio 1814 firewire interface to get the mics and instruments into the computer and use Reaper to mix and add effects. I also use M-Audio studio monitors but not totally necessary if you want to use headphones. All fits in a backpack.
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rendesvous1840
Ha`aha`a
USA
1055 Posts |
Posted - 03/03/2009 : 5:51:47 PM
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I hadn't thought of this, but it could be the answer, Karl. When we were young'uns, there was one underlying cause for nearly everything, from crop failures to male-pattern baldness to stock market plummets. Your couple of mistakes are obviously due to "Them Damn Sonic Booms!" Yup. That's it, for sure. All them grown-up's can't be wrong.
Paul
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Karl Monetti
`Olu`olu
USA
756 Posts |
Posted - 03/03/2009 : 6:16:16 PM
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Sonic Booms!!! Why didn't I think of that??? Probably because of SONIC BOOMS!
Ho'okani, I have a Guitar Plug that interfaces the guitar nicely to the computer. It plugs into the coputer via usb connector, with fat 1/4 inch jack at the guitar end. Sounds really good. |
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RJS
Ha`aha`a
1635 Posts |
Posted - 03/03/2009 : 6:54:10 PM
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Karl Monetti
`Olu`olu
USA
756 Posts |
Posted - 03/03/2009 : 8:22:02 PM
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Raymond,
I found this in a local music store for $39 a few years ago, when Jesse did the last compilation CD for us. There was a brand name other than Guitar Plug, but I no longer have the packaging or any other info about it. I looked it up on Google and this site has the (apparently) exact same thing for only 20 bucks. The site describes the GP very nicely. I thought it was a bargain at 40 bucks, but this is even better! I remember the acres of print on this site that have been devoted to guitar/computer interfaces, most costing hundreds of dollars. I mentioned this gizmo back then, but , since it is Mac specific (I had forgotten that part) I suppose a lot of losers out there (non-Mac folks) won;t be able to access this little gem. Bummer. As I remember, you are a Mac man so I'd strongly suggest getting one. Yo will need a usb cord to complete the connection. The end that fits into the GP is a wierd rectangular deal with a flattened barn roof on one side. The other end fits the usb port in the computer.
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/DVForge/GUITARPLUG/
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slkho
`Olu`olu
740 Posts |
Posted - 03/05/2009 : 07:58:40 AM
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Gramps...Gramps....Gramps... its been awhile, but as I now only occasionally surf the TP now, I saw your thread, and just like in old times, could not resist preying on you like a starving mosiquito on a tourist in Hawaii.
A quick preface: I've seen you play, heard you play...you are very good. No worries about your last not-so-great performance...it happens to all of us. ( I have on numerous occassions mentioned how much I totally suck at slack key, but just like an American Idol auditioner, don't know, or care if I do) I just love to play slack key. I wouldn't lose sleep on it, you'll be fine, even if you are a geezer!!
Now for the fun.
Gramps, just like Sarah Palin could see Russia from her window, I could hear the squeaky, mis-toned pluckings of your playing even way down here in SoCal. At first I thought also, why is my dog (the Zoom-ster) wailing, farting, and have uncontrollable explosive diarrea, and it donned on me, Karl must be playing that Frankenstein home-made ax he made a few years back. No wonder Polar Bears are shooting themselves, and the ice shelf is melting..could it be global warming?, maybe some other natural diaster brought on by some huge oil company butt-humping the enviroment?...naahh, just Karl trying yet again to play a song with the jitters.
While I admit, playing your guitar with mittens, while hooked up to your oxygen caddy, and shifting in that combo wheelchair/stroller contraption is challenging, playing in front of a retired, farting sled dog, and an alcohol hazed crowd of Blue Hairs, should not be one of them.
Don't guys, (ahem...antiques) like you simply play Kazoo, or spoons? Are 6 strings too much? Have they not yet invented a lip sync machine that not only plays a slack key song for you but administers your meds? Yikes!! Once again, the cold, the age, the life in the Frozen North has made your Poly-Grip brittle, and your brains a nice cottage chees mush. My advice is to make another guitar out of ice, so that the next time you melt on stage you won't leave a trace, and we won't be annoyed by farting sled dogs.
Karl, you know I love ya man!!! LOL ha ha....as always, I await your rebuttal. :-)
~slkho
p.s.when are you coming down here again?
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