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chunky monkey
Ha`aha`a
USA
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 Posted - 08/26/2013 : 6:20:07 PM
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Ok TPers. After pretty much ignoring this thread for 10 years, I just scored a mint 1980 Dobro (the real deal as such for 1980 anyway) chromed bell brass body, biscuit bridge, Grover open-gear tuners, Hawaiian motif, etc. Since I have 4 frettable guitars, I thought I'd set this up for slide. I have some blues slide experience, but I'm about to embark on the lap steel journey. So...
where do I start? Specifically:
1. good basic how tos - videos, Youtube etc. (I don't mind buying stuff)
2. tuning - I'm sure each of you has a favorite and why
3. strings - gauge, brands, composition etc
4. bar - I have a few slides - glass, brass, bottleneck, steel etc from blues slide experience. I've seen a bunch of lap steel bars, but no idea what works best for what uses
5. which are the lap steel standards that I can learn as a beginner (sort of)?
Anyway, for those who don't know me, I'm a Slacker and I know about 100 songs. I normally play in Taro Patch with variations, Open D and some variations and drop C.
To avoid clogging up this thread with lots of details, I'd appreciate emails with your version of detail for my problem.
Thanks.
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Konabob
`Olu`olu
USA
928 Posts |
Posted - 08/27/2013 : 07:29:47 AM
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1) Bob Brozman put out some good information.
2) His tuning was standard taropatch for the most part - it is a good tuning which works well for early Hawaiian, country, blues, etc.
3) Decide what tuning you want to use, then use this calculator to choose strings for that tuning: http://www.bangzero.org/stringtension/
Let me know if you have trouble. Also, see if you can get a plain steel string for your high g string. It will reduce the amount of buzz.
4) Lots of guys will tell you to get a bullet bar. You don't want anything hollow. I love the Shubb SP-2, which has the roundness of the
bullet, but is WAY easier to hold.
5) Learn "Bula Blues" and listen to the works of Barney Issacs. He played Hawaiian music on the Dobro. Also, Ken Emerson did a great album called "Slack & Steel". It is out of print, but if you can find a copy it will be a real help in getting your style together in taropatch tuning.
http://www.dancingcat.com/PressKit/ArtistPhotos/BarneyIsaacs.jpg
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Konabob's Walkingbass - http://www.konawalkingbass.com
Taropatch Steel - http://www.konaweb.com/konabob/
YouTube - http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=Konabob2+Walkingbass |
Edited by - Konabob on 08/27/2013 07:31:56 AM |
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chunky monkey
Ha`aha`a
USA
1022 Posts |
Posted - 08/27/2013 : 07:37:56 AM
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| Thanks Bob. I'm headed to Kona end of Oct. I'll check in when we get there. |
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thumbstruck
Ahonui
USA
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Posted - 08/28/2013 : 05:33:01 AM
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| For steel, I like "Dobro" Bluegrass tuning: GBDGBD over Taropatch, as it has a tighter chord. Slipry1 turned me on to C6, CEGACE, which is way cool. The 6 note in the chord allows for minors, 6th chords, implied 9ths, implied major7ths, and with a slant, 3 noted implied diminish chords. |
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Konabob
`Olu`olu
USA
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slipry1
Ha`aha`a
USA
1511 Posts |
Posted - 08/28/2013 : 10:48:43 AM
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| You should check in with Alan Akaka. I take lessons from him via Skype, which works out fine. He runs Ke Kula Mele, and he has loads of material. Alan is a stickler for hand and bar positions. As TP'ers who know me will attest, Alan has worked wonders with my playing. Check out his website: http://www.kekulamele.com/. Alan charges $65/hr for lessons. He teaches mostly C6, which is a good tuning for Hawaiian steel (sorry, Konabob). Sixth tunings (A, C, G, and E, most commonly) are tremendously handy for playing Hawaiian or Western Swing. |
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Julie H
Ha`aha`a
USA
1206 Posts |
Posted - 08/28/2013 : 5:32:23 PM
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Bob Brozman gave me his personal bar, called the "Brozophonic".
I love it, it feels good in my hand, and of course, Bob's mana is all over it.
I do miss him horribly!
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Admin
Pupule
USA
4551 Posts |
Posted - 08/29/2013 : 05:57:53 AM
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Terry,
Congrats on your recent acquisition. Hope to hear you play it soon! |
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wdf
Ha`aha`a
USA
1153 Posts |
Posted - 08/29/2013 : 06:17:28 AM
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Well, that didn't take long...  |
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slipry1
Ha`aha`a
USA
1511 Posts |
Posted - 08/29/2013 : 08:19:12 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by Julie H
Bob Brozman gave me his personal bar, called the "Brozophonic".
I love it, it feels good in my hand, and of course, Bob's mana is all over it.
I do miss him horribly!
Julie
I have one, too! I love it (and the John Pearse bar, which is very much like it). |
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Konabob
`Olu`olu
USA
928 Posts |
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Karl Monetti
`Olu`olu
USA
756 Posts |
Posted - 09/04/2013 : 10:45:34 AM
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Chunky,
That guitar sounds like a real junker. Why don't you send it to me and I'll get rid of it for you.....
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Julie H
Ha`aha`a
USA
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Posted - 09/06/2013 : 8:34:29 PM
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No, send it to me, I'll sell it and give the $ to charity!
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