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wcerto
Ahonui
USA
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 Posted - 09/07/2008 : 1:52:01 PM
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| PS: Glenn, you no I neva can be huhu at you. You tell too many good stories. You should tell some dem obake stories den. |
Me ke aloha
Malama pono,
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wcerto
Ahonui
USA
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wcerto
Ahonui
USA
5052 Posts |
Posted - 09/11/2008 : 02:39:33 AM
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Whatevah happened to dat Bula`ia? Where he now?
All you O`ahu guyz, my friend Pam going holoholo O`ahu Saturday fo 2 week. She also too goin hele Big Island for visit volcano. She going stay Hale Koa, I tink Noelani Cipriano kani deah, but I tole her for go see Martin dem, but I tink Martin dem going be Kaleponi, dat right? So I tole her go see dat CUTE Ocean Kaowili, Uncle Eddie guyz at Honey's. But I tink Mike Ka`awa goin be Kaleponi, dat right? So I tole her go Hawaii Kai for see Led, but I tink Led goin be Kaleponi, dat right?
So who da heck Pam going see? I tole her go Chai's see Uncle Jerry dem. Maybe he stay home no go Kaleponi. She taking her dawdah with her & her husband. I hope she no fix her dawdah up wit Barry Kimokeo. I like MY dawdah get chance. She don't no much Hawaiian music. She only know liddobit maybe Iz kine, so dis one chance fo malihini fo fall in love wit da music.
My dawdah say dat becawz all dem tropical stormz an hurrikeinz down da Gulf from Mexico, dat circus animoz had fo get evackuaided, so at her High School Musical on Ice, dey get ellefinks stay da ice rink inna basement ovah deah in Memphis. Dey make plenny ferdillaiser dem. |
Me ke aloha
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wcerto
Ahonui
USA
5052 Posts |
Posted - 09/11/2008 : 12:56:41 PM
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Eh, u no we stay have dis tread fo while now. Duke go staht em I tink while we was ovah deah, maybe chree monts awredeh. Do u tink I geddem da kine lesson good? Owah should I stay study mo hahd. Eh?
ps: Here da peechas bot my dawdahs, left is Karen, age 28, get one boy friend why da he#% dey nomo get married? and da noddah one is Marianne, age 26 (almost, soon), get one B.A. in Tee`eidah Technology from Kent State University (yep, da one bout 4 makeh die dead in Ohio). Get one full time job, working, making kala.
Well, OK, making da costumes also too. She may be coming to a city near you soon.
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Me ke aloha
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thumbstruck
Ahonui
USA
2168 Posts |
Posted - 09/11/2008 : 4:14:04 PM
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| Eh, Wanda, I on'y wen' spock 1&3/4 dottahs. Camera too small? |
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Peter Medeiros
`Olu`olu
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Posted - 09/11/2008 : 5:18:37 PM
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Eh, tita ma,
Yoa dawdas real preddy. What happened? I would be reel proud too anden.
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hikabe
Lokahi
USA
358 Posts |
Posted - 09/11/2008 : 5:46:52 PM
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I break into pidgeon among locals only, and only in person. I would excuse myself from conversations with most of the posters here. Some of you are trying so hard that it seems contrite and silly. Some of you are going way overboard to the extent that it seems similar to blackface. I guess it is fun for some, but a turn off for me. I feel insulted. Like talking gaga to a baby, assuming the baby is too stupid to understand the language. Pidgeon is mostly a breakdown of Japanese, who are prevalent in the islands.
It seems I may be the only one that thinks posting in broken english is a turn off. Am I a grouch, or are there others who feel the same way. Email me if you do. I won't read this thread. I only got through a few and had enough. |
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wcerto
Ahonui
USA
5052 Posts |
Posted - 09/11/2008 : 11:05:31 PM
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Petah - whachu mean "what happened"??? I tink dey take aftah dey Daddy, cept nomo beahd (yet).
And Dukie, please nomo huhu. You get choke moah aloha.
Wen someone pos someting I no agree wit, I considah deah view point. Bumbai I learn sumtin'. I wen learn about Hiram awreddeh. Mahaloz, Hiram, for teachin me mo den u no. |
Me ke aloha
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wcerto
Ahonui
USA
5052 Posts |
Posted - 09/11/2008 : 11:15:58 PM
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PS - Kory only 1 3/4 dawdahz cos Karen take dey own peecha lidat. I do not have hardly any current peechas dem togeddah, hard fo get dem togeddah same time same place.
Dis da Marianne holoholo skedyu for Da Hi Skoo Muziko on Eis. I tink she say mohslee preteen wahinez liddo girlz like dis. Ahdunno y. Pretty lame, but. So see, she comin to a city neah u. I nomo see her til next May, long time dat. She going be LA fo Kalikimaka, nomo dreamin of a white Christmas.
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Me ke aloha
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Peter Medeiros
`Olu`olu
546 Posts |
Posted - 09/12/2008 : 12:57:44 AM
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Originally posted by wcerto
Petah - whachu mean "what happened"??? I tink dey take aftah dey Daddy, cept nomo beahd (yet).
Yeah, coz I woz wonderin anden. You stay da anointed won yeah, but deez keeds no mo even mustache. Go try lif da ahm see if get da limu? |
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wcerto
Ahonui
USA
5052 Posts |
Posted - 09/12/2008 : 02:16:41 AM
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| No limu. Shave. We girlz shave way mo dan dey daddy. He stopped shaving long about 1972. |
Me ke aloha
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hikabe
Lokahi
USA
358 Posts |
Posted - 09/12/2008 : 10:41:04 AM
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Pidgeon english is not exclusive to hawaii. Any time peoples of two ethnic backgrounds try to communicate, you get a synthesis of both and it will sound like what a lot of people think is exclusive to the hawaiian community.
Duke asks is posting a turn off. The premise is implied. But then my opinion is dispelled as lunacy.
In dukes first post, phrases like "don't want to offend anyone", alludes to the chance that it may be offensive to some people. That is what I am addressing here. If the thread started out saying "Let's Talk Pidgeon" I would'nt have responded.
I agree with sirduke on most of his observations. I have never represented or try to speak for others, including hawaiians. I never speak for anyone but myself. I am a banana in a lot of ways. I love rocking the boat, especially when it is overloaded with junk. I don't really like the negative attention I get, but am not afraid to express an opinion. Phoney and ignorant are words meant to hurt my feelings, I guess. Cyber-rage so to speak. I am neither.
High maka maka, yes, thanks. A scrub? In what regard? As a human or an artist? As a human, perhaps. As an artist, bring it!
Royal Hawaiian? No! Just another earthling.
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braddah jay
Lokahi
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Posted - 09/12/2008 : 11:37:12 AM
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Originally posted by sirduke58
Does our posting in "Broken English" make you feel like you're being excluded from the
conversation? Does it feel like we are part of a "click" who only correspond amongst a
select group of people? Do you not feel comfortable with your grasp or understanding of
"Pidgin" English & tend to shy away from such conversations because you feel inadequate
or don't want to risk offending anyone?
Well let me formally invite everyone to take part in these "Broken English" posts.Our
intention is never to exclude anyone,it's mostly to inject a little Hawaii into the
conversation.There is no obligation to respond in like manner,because we "Pidgin"
speakers also speak "Textbook English" Hey I'm finally bilingual
We all have a lot of common interests.Seems like a dirty shame to be separated by either implied,inferred or invisible walls. E KOMO MAI!!! I came here because of Ki ho'alu,I
don't care what your IQ level,Ethnic make-up,musical ability,economic status or whatever
is.If you're good people,I'd like to get acquainted & share
Malama pono
 Braddah Duke
Hikabe,I think you should read more carefully,cause nowhere does it say "is posting a turn off" in fact there's nothing about what's your opinion.About "let's talk pidgeon" there was an invitation but it was not an obligation,it was a choice.You say you don't like the negative attention you get,but are willing to express you opinion,no problem just make sure when you rock the boat,you're in the right boat.Nowhere did the post ask for an opinion,but was merely an invitation to all.Plain and simple |
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wcerto
Ahonui
USA
5052 Posts |
Posted - 09/12/2008 : 11:44:22 AM
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OK Hiram. We get your opinion. And I respect your opinion. You're not going to change, nor am I. We have fun over here, a great sense of camaraderie. Gee, matter of fact, more than camaraderie. Some people call it aloha, but I already know that you do not like that word, especially coming from haoles, as you have written on the forum in the past. This thread metamorphosed into something great. It permitted people to have fun. It is very creative to try to discern "local speak" and figure out ways to spell the words.
I think Duke's original idea was more about if people who do not understand pidgin feel left out of the conversations because there may be words and phrases which they do not understand. Like for instance when Peter posted earlier about if my daughters had limu. Many people might not understand what he meant by that. But I found it friendly, fun and amusing. It makes for a great camaraderie without anyone feeling they need to mind their p's and q's, so to speak.
May we please agree to disagree and the subject and those who have fun with this thread can continue having fun with this thread.
You do not have to be ashamed of your Hawaiianess and try to hide it by disdaining something that is uniquely Hawaiian. And you do not need to insinuate that those who do use it are inferior in any way.
You may teach music and you certainly have students on this forum who recognize your talents and appreciate them. I have even commented on your art skills, myself. You are a very remarkable visual artist. But one thing that I think is more important that your technical music skills or your artistic ability is that Duke has taught aloha to me and to my husband. They have set such a shining example for us, both he and Jay. They have opened their hearts to not only us, but so many other people who have met them either through this forum or through You Tube. Duke and Jay sharing their aloha has had profound impact on my life and on those around me. Because of the aloha they share, it has caused me to share my aloha with others and on and on and on. The aloha is growing exponentially. Their humility is also a sign of their great aloha. They never toot their own horn. They are never guilty of blatant self promotion. They are comfortable in their own skins and do not have to constant belittle others to build themselves up. They do not have to constantly tell, no demand, that others recognize their superior talents.
You don't like pidgin. OK. Move on then. The rest of us pitiful folks obah heah in black face, massah, we gwine stay.
Aloha is.... That song Uncle Moe sang, was a beautiful lesson to us all. The concept of ho`opono is a beautiful thing as well. You can start putting the light back into your calabash if you want.
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Peter Medeiros
`Olu`olu
546 Posts |
Posted - 09/12/2008 : 1:17:39 PM
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Hiram,
There are better and more efficient ways to take care of a problem than the path that you are taking now. Use some common sense and try meeting people at least half way. This is best way to solve what ever problem you may be facing. And you should be aware of this especially since you are trying to make a living by teaching Hawaiian music in the Bay area. You as a teacher should not put yourself in a position where you have to rehabilitate whatever good public image you may have had.
Too many of your postings are confrontational, insulting or intimidating. Unless this is the only way you have of relating to other people, you will not have very many students. Teaching is a people business. I know this from almost forty years of teaching slack key. And any public comments that you post will be perceived not only by the members of this forum, but also by potential students. If you don’t think students or the parents do background research on music teachers, you better wake up. You may be discouraging potential students from signing up with you.
I’m sure that sometime in your life, either your parents or your teachers must have told you “if you cannot say something good about somebody, don’t say anything.” The reason for this is that if you do go out of your way to cause trouble, it may come back at you in ways that you do not expect, thus making your life more difficult. Also, as you may have learned as a performing musician, not only is the first impression that you make upon an audience important, but every performance and comment that you make in public is important and can be questioned.
About three months ago after your trip back home to Hawaii and after much public bitching and woe is me moaning about how bad your trip was, you declared some embarrassment for posting your comments in this forum, and you would be leaving. Now you are back and you are starting off on the wrong foot again. Have you learned anything during your hiatus about relating to people on the internet? Are you disclosing too much about yourself? Or are you just a bad writer? Something is definitely wrong here, because apparently you are unable to help yourself. You have to use some common sense.
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Is Posting In "Broken English" a turn off?
