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Waibaddayu
Aloha

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Posted - 03/03/2010 :  08:48:30 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Aloha, Palaina here! I'm looking for sheet music for Hi'ilawe, da kine fo da fingers, not da notes. Anybody have a link I can download? Mahalo!

No worry! Can!
Place your name. Kau Inoa.

wcerto
Ahonui

USA
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Posted - 03/03/2010 :  08:55:04 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If you are looking for guitar tab, write to SirDuke, he can fix you up with tab.

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Malama pono,
Wanda
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Waibaddayu
Aloha

USA
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Posted - 03/03/2010 :  09:35:33 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mahalo Auntie!

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Admin
Pupule

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Posted - 03/03/2010 :  09:38:06 AM  Show Profile  Visit Admin's Homepage  Send Admin an AOL message  Send Admin an ICQ Message  Send Admin a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I recall Keola handing out a Hi'ilawe tab in G at a workshop. Check out Mark Nelson's: http://www.jamplay.com/guitar-lessons/full/hiilawe-441.html

Just a friendly reminder from the FAQ:
Can I share music and/or tabs here? Does Taropatch.net have a policy on copyrighted materials?

Andy
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Waibaddayu
Aloha

USA
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Posted - 03/03/2010 :  09:49:41 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mahalo Auntie!

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Mark
Ha`aha`a

USA
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Posted - 03/03/2010 :  10:23:36 AM  Show Profile  Visit Mark's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Keola's version is in "Learn to Play Hawaiian Steel Guitar" --the book we did for Mel Bay. It's in G6th (D-G-D-G-B-E lo to hi.)

He's also taught it at the Aloha Camp--I think it was a slightly different version.

My version on JamPlay is in Drop C.
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slipry1
Ha`aha`a

USA
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Posted - 03/03/2010 :  10:43:31 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
When I played for Auntie Manu Lono at the Snoqualmie Casion, she did it in F and D minor! I was very glad to be playing steel! Thumbs wasn't there, so we didn't have slack key, although the guy can perform miracles playing in about any key out of taropatch tuning. Her hulau danced it, too. The moral: when da boss is a uker, prepare for a lot of stuff in F.

keaka
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slipry1
Ha`aha`a

USA
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Posted - 03/03/2010 :  10:44:41 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by slipry1

When I played for Auntie Manu Lono at the Snoqualmie Casion, she did it in F and D minor! I was very glad to be playing steel! Thumbs wasn't there, so we didn't have slack key, although the guy can perform miracles playing in about any key out of taropatch tuning. Her hulau danced it, too. The moral: when da boss is a uker, prepare for a lot of stuff in F.


Dat's Casino - da dyslexic kane strikes again!

keaka
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Mika ele
Ha`aha`a

USA
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Posted - 03/03/2010 :  2:11:37 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think Duke has a video on YouTube. It is worth watching.
I don't think Gabby played it in Open G (DGDGBD). I play it in either Drop C (CGDGBD) or C Wahine (CGDGBE) and sing it in the key of C major.
Peter Medeiros' Book has tab for it as well.

E nana, e ho'olohe. E pa'a ka waha, e hana ka lima.
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Allen M Cary
Lokahi

USA
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Posted - 03/04/2010 :  5:26:48 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You won't believe it but this month's Acoustic Guitar has tabs for Hi'ilawe in Drop C (which almost qualifies as open G). Pick up the April (AG is kinda like Mad Magazine in its dating system) issue and lo and behold you will find a Patrick Landeza arrangement on page 90.
Aloha,
Allen
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les_maverick
Lokahi

USA
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Posted - 03/04/2010 :  8:53:29 PM  Show Profile  Visit les_maverick's Homepage  Send les_maverick an AOL message  Send les_maverick a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Here is a link to AC magazine and Patrick Landeza's article and lesson.
There are tabs too.

http://www.acguitar.com/article/default.aspx?articleid=25116

Les
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Waibaddayu
Aloha

USA
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Posted - 03/05/2010 :  11:18:39 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by les_maverick

Here is a link to AC magazine and Patrick Landeza's article and lesson.
There are tabs too.

http://www.acguitar.com/article/default.aspx?articleid=25116

Les


Mahalo Al and Les fo da heads up. Got it downloaded, an wen bookmark Mika McClellan's audio tunings. I feel a kanaka maoli resurrection uprising in dis OHA certified Hawaiian! SUPE!

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thumbstruck
Ahonui

USA
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Posted - 03/05/2010 :  4:46:56 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Playing "Hi'ilawe" in taorpatch G is not that hard. I just play around the main chord forms.
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hwnmusiclives
`Olu`olu

USA
580 Posts

Posted - 03/08/2010 :  08:38:56 AM  Show Profile  Visit hwnmusiclives's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mika ele

I think Duke has a video on YouTube. It is worth watching.
I don't think Gabby played it in Open G (DGDGBD). I play it in either Drop C (CGDGBD) or C Wahine (CGDGBE) and sing it in the key of C major.
Peter Medeiros' Book has tab for it as well.

I have to concur with Mika'ele on this one. Gabby had a unique tuning for "Hi'ilawe" which is often just called "Gabby's Hi'ilawe."

C-G-E-G-B-E

Notice the difference between this tuning and C Wahine - the fourth string raised from D to E. This allowed Gabby to play much of the melody with only one finger - easily moving from V to I with a hammer-on at the first fret on the second string.

Because of the similarities of the tunings, most players today would use Drop C or C Wahine to play "Hi'ilawe." And while Drop C is very similar to Open G, how you would finger this song if playing in the key of G is very different than how you would play it in the key of C.


Join me for the history of Hawaiian music and its musicians at Ho`olohe Hou at www.hoolohehou.org.
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PearlCityBoy
Lokahi

USA
432 Posts

Posted - 03/08/2010 :  4:16:58 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hwnmusiclives

quote:
Originally posted by Mika ele

I think Duke has a video on YouTube. It is worth watching.
I don't think Gabby played it in Open G (DGDGBD). I play it in either Drop C (CGDGBD) or C Wahine (CGDGBE) and sing it in the key of C major.
Peter Medeiros' Book has tab for it as well.

I have to concur with Mika'ele on this one. Gabby had a unique tuning for "Hi'ilawe" which is often just called "Gabby's Hi'ilawe."

C-G-E-G-B-E

Notice the difference between this tuning and C Wahine - the fourth string raised from D to E. This allowed Gabby to play much of the melody with only one finger - easily moving from V to I with a hammer-on at the first fret on the second string.

Because of the similarities of the tunings, most players today would use Drop C or C Wahine to play "Hi'ilawe." And while Drop C is very similar to Open G, how you would finger this song if playing in the key of G is very different than how you would play it in the key of C.



Didn't realized Gabby's Hi'ilawe C (CGEGBE) is only one string (4th string) different than C Wahine/Keola's C (CGDGBE). I never tried the Hi'ilawe C, but when I change the 2nd string from C Maunaloa (CGEGAE) to Atta's/Cyril's Open C (CGEGCE), I'll be sure to stop in the middle and experiment .

Bruddah Duke's fine rendition of Hi'ilawe (with Bruddah Jay backing on uke) is in C Maunaloa: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ysr0c4rmYTA . Love the old-style backyard sound.

Aloha,
Doug
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hwnmusiclives
`Olu`olu

USA
580 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2010 :  03:08:41 AM  Show Profile  Visit hwnmusiclives's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:

Didn't realized Gabby's Hi'ilawe C (CGEGBE) is only one string (4th string) different than C Wahine/Keola's C (CGDGBE). I never tried the Hi'ilawe C, but when I change the 2nd string from C Maunaloa (CGEGAE) to Atta's/Cyril's Open C (CGEGCE), I'll be sure to stop in the middle and experiment .

Bruddah Duke's fine rendition of Hi'ilawe (with Bruddah Jay backing on uke) is in C Maunaloa: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ysr0c4rmYTA . Love the old-style backyard sound.

Aloha,
Doug
Doug, while you're sliding through tunings one string and one whole step at a time, if you enjoy Atta's playing, there is another tuning to explore. I don't think it is widely documented, but I call it "Atta's F."

CFDGBE

This is Drop C with the G on the fifth string tuned down to F. Or, you might think of this as standard guitar tuning on the first four strings with a root and a fifth on the bottom if playing in the key of F. Atta played standard tuning very well. So he would play this tuning as if he were playing standard tuning on the first four strings and just reach for the bass strings if he were playing the I (F) or V (C) chords. He might also bar at the fifth fret, so then he would have the bass notes of the IV (Bb) chord as well. This is a tuning he used frequently, such as on the duets album he did with his brother, steel guitarist Barney Isaacs (called "Hau'oli") or on the New Hawaiian Band albums. It will largely be mistaken for standard tuning if you listen because he is playing a lot of chord melody all over the fretboard - all played on the first four strings as if he were playing standard tuning.

Atta also had an interesting approach to Open G. He didn't tune the guitar any differently. But... While most players would play the melody on the first string and harmonize the melody a fourth below on the third string, Atta would play the melody on the second string and harmonize the melody a fourth below on the fourth string. Players who harmonize on the first and third strings have two open pedal tones to let ring out - the second string and the fourth string creating an open fourth below and a third above the melody. But Atta was letting the first and third string ring out as pedal tones - giving him an octave below and a fifth above the melody. This gave his playing a very different color - especially when he would roll the first four strings.


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