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Pupule

USA
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Posted - 03/23/2011 :  03:51:39 AM  Show Profile  Visit Admin's Homepage  Send Admin an AOL message  Send Admin an ICQ Message  Send Admin a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Money spent on promoting Hawaiian language is money well spent

Andy

wcerto
Ahonui

USA
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Posted - 03/23/2011 :  06:53:19 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Agree with this article. If people just want to lay in the sun by the water, no need to go to Hawai`i. Can save bucks and go elsewhere. What sets Hawai`i apart is that the culture is alive and vibrant, and the language is the most important part of that picture. It is a most beautiful and poetic language. It is lovely to listen to, both in the spoken word and in mele.

Me ke aloha
Malama pono,
Wanda
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noeau
Ha`aha`a

USA
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Posted - 03/23/2011 :  09:16:35 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Funny but when money is the issue then you get attention. Most of us went lurn fo talk da kine cause that is our kuleana. Now somebody talking economics?

No'eau, eia au he mea pa'ani wale nō.

Edited by - noeau on 03/24/2011 6:21:32 PM
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wcerto
Ahonui

USA
5052 Posts

Posted - 03/23/2011 :  09:31:20 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, Al, maybe some who did not put importance into the language as a result of cultural pride will pay attention when dollars are involved. If people hear the language, perhaps it will motivate some to want to learn the language.

Me ke aloha
Malama pono,
Wanda
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Mika ele
Ha`aha`a

USA
1493 Posts

Posted - 03/23/2011 :  12:35:55 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Although a Hawaiian language Consulting encouraging the spending of money on Hawaiian Language (consulting and promotion) is a wee bit self serving. What else would you have expected him to say. . . . My job is a waste of time so don't pay me?

However, the fact remains that what hepls make Hawai'i special is the language and culture.

E nana, e ho'olohe. E pa'a ka waha, e hana ka lima.
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thumbstruck
Ahonui

USA
2168 Posts

Posted - 03/23/2011 :  3:47:29 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The best felt vote is done with the wallet. "When they say it's not about the money, it's about the money." The surest way to get people to value something is to up the price.
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thumbstruck
Ahonui

USA
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Posted - 03/23/2011 :  3:57:09 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
After rereading the article the state of language in the US came to mind. New Mexico is officially bi-lingual. Native American languages on the mainland are given recognition. French has a special status in Louisiana. German is still spoken in the Dakotas, as is old Norwegian. Proficiency in English is good, but understanding and speaking another language has been shown to give kids a boost towards higher education besides them being able to relate to others that speak languages other than English. The more you learn, the more you can learn.
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slipry1
Ha`aha`a

USA
1511 Posts

Posted - 03/24/2011 :  06:41:52 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by thumbstruck

After rereading the article the state of language in the US came to mind. New Mexico is officially bi-lingual. Native American languages on the mainland are given recognition. French has a special status in Louisiana. German is still spoken in the Dakotas, as is old Norwegian. Proficiency in English is good, but understanding and speaking another language has been shown to give kids a boost towards higher education besides them being able to relate to others that speak languages other than English. The more you learn, the more you can learn.


An'd den dere's Minnesotan - she's not taught anywhere, ya know.

keaka
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thumbstruck
Ahonui

USA
2168 Posts

Posted - 03/24/2011 :  08:57:04 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ya, dere vass a book for dat years ago but now it's outa print.
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Retro
Ahonui

USA
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Posted - 03/24/2011 :  10:54:53 AM  Show Profile  Visit Retro's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by thumbstruck

Ya, dere vass a book for dat years ago but now it's outa print.

Try dis vun:
http://www.amazon.com/How-Talk-Minnesotan-Visitors-Guide/dp/0140092846
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Puna
Lokahi

USA
227 Posts

Posted - 03/24/2011 :  1:54:19 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Try dis vun:

Open up Google. Go to the settings (options). Go to 'Search setting'. Under "Interface Language", choose "Bork-bork-bork!"

Save preferences.

Oh, you can choose Hawaiian, too. But "Elmer Fudd" is more fun.

Puna
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noeau
Ha`aha`a

USA
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Posted - 03/24/2011 :  6:20:24 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was not critiquing the consultant. It is the idea that only when money can be made then something is deemed valuable That is one reason why we wage war. Old futs start it and then our young die for it. Then when they come home nobody like spend the money they made on taking care of these young people. It was all about money when the traitorous 13 staged their coup. They overthrew a valid govʻt so that they could keep on selling sugar. Same ole crap money, money money. Greed and avarice raises its head again.

No'eau, eia au he mea pa'ani wale nō.

Edited by - noeau on 03/24/2011 6:23:19 PM
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thumbstruck
Ahonui

USA
2168 Posts

Posted - 03/24/2011 :  11:22:55 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Governments and financial systems come and go, albeit over a longer time than most live. Thus the importance of our personal fair treatment of those we interact with. Jus' press.

Edited by - thumbstruck on 03/24/2011 11:23:51 PM
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slipry1
Ha`aha`a

USA
1511 Posts

Posted - 03/25/2011 :  06:16:53 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by noeau

I was not critiquing the consultant. It is the idea that only when money can be made then something is deemed valuable That is one reason why we wage war. Old futs start it and then our young die for it. Then when they come home nobody like spend the money they made on taking care of these young people. It was all about money when the traitorous 13 staged their coup. They overthrew a valid govʻt so that they could keep on selling sugar. Same ole crap money, money money. Greed and avarice raises its head again.


Yep. Capitalism is based on two deadly sins: greed (I want more) and envy (I want more than you). As ?I have often said, the most dangerous place you can be is between a capitalist and a source of money. He (or she) will do ANYTHING (murder, betrayal, etc.) to get to it. Witness the history of Hawaii.

keaka
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thumbstruck
Ahonui

USA
2168 Posts

Posted - 03/25/2011 :  08:20:02 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
JOseph Heller said that the weak are always at the mercy of those in power. Doesn't matter the political system. That's why music is so important for our continual need of healing.
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rendesvous1840
Ha`aha`a

USA
1055 Posts

Posted - 03/25/2011 :  09:01:01 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, but there's a catch.
Unko Paul

"A master banjo player isn't the person who can pick the most notes.It's the person who can touch the most hearts." Patrick Costello
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