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Auntie Maria
Ha`aha`a
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kuulei88
Akahai
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 Posted - 04/06/2011 : 11:04:13 AM
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READ The Recording Academyʻs press release. Thanks to Retro who posted this in another thread.
MAJOR CHANGES AFOOT
The Recording Academy this morning announced a restructuring of the Awards overall (including the way members are allowed to vote) - press release at http://www.grammy.org/recording-academy/announcement/press-release
Main thing you'll all be curious about, of course, is the Hawaiian Album category. Well, here's what is happening with that (quoted directly from the Grammy.com website):
American Roots Music. The traditional and contemporary blues categories and the traditional and contemporary folk categories each were consolidated into one per genre, due to the number of entries and given the challenges in distinguishing between Contemporary Folk and Americana and Contemporary and Traditional Blues. There has been a great deal of concern over the consistently low entries in the Hawaiian, Native American and Cajun/Zydeco Categories. It was believed best to continue to honor such regional music, but to do it all together, recognizing the very cream of this crop, with one category: Regional Roots Music. This has a pattern/precedent in Regional Mexican Music and would incorporate Hawaiian, Cajun/Zydeco, Native American, and Polka music (which has a regional home in the Great Lakes states). |
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Retro
Ahonui
USA
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Posted - 04/06/2011 : 11:38:59 AM
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Also from the other thread - for those curious about the new criteria:
From the Grammy.com website:
Minimum entry thresholds per Category.
It is now expected that each Category shall have at least 40 artist entries. If a Category receives between 25 – 39 artist entries, only three recordings would receive nominations. If a Category receives fewer than 25 artist entries, the Category would not be presented that year (and entries would be moved to the next most logical Category). If a Category receives fewer than 25 entries for three consecutive years, the Category would be discontinued (and submissions would be entered in the next most appropriate Category). |
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thumbstruck
Ahonui
USA
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Posted - 04/06/2011 : 2:36:09 PM
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| Seems like da Grammy guys figgah da small kine music ony wase time. Dey really ony like hea "KA-CHING!" |
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Retro
Ahonui
USA
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Posted - 04/06/2011 : 2:41:50 PM
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Originally posted by thumbstruck
Seems like da Grammy guys figgah da small kine music ony wase time. Dey really ony like hea "KA-CHING!"
I think they combined Hawaiian with Polka so that YOU could win, K! (You can do Cajun, too, right?) |
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thumbstruck
Ahonui
USA
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Posted - 04/07/2011 : 04:10:54 AM
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| I'm all for "smorgasbord" ala NWFolklife, where many styles easily accessable. Cross fertilization and creativity cause new things to happen. But, genres are easily identified with a region or ethnic group, highlighting the uniqueness of the style. Why have Grammy categories at all? Just give the award to the one with the biggest $. |
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donkaulia
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Posted - 04/07/2011 : 08:06:02 AM
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'Ka-Ching' is right...all about the money.
We Hawaiians, like other minority groups on this planet, have always been taken advantaged of...since the overthrow, our land properties, our language, our culture and our music...has been taken advantage of.
Everything we do is spiritually tied to Akua and our ancestors.
Perhaps this may be a 'slap in da face' to some, to others this is
Kharma justified naturally.
Thank you Germany, They never had any Hawaiian category but awarded their Echo Award to my childhood friend and playmate braddah IZ ..Israel Kamakawiwoole.
I have always believed that a Grammy Chapter for Hawaiian Music should be located and designated here in the Hawaiian Islands. We already have HARA to recognize Hawaiian artists every year and a collaboration with a Hawaii Grammy Chapter would suffice.
Perhaps Germany will set the precedence beyond the corporate music world of America for Hawaiian music. Hawaiian music will always live on.
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wcerto
Ahonui
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Posted - 04/07/2011 : 09:39:05 AM
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From the Maui News:
http://www.mauinews.com/page/content.detail/id/548063/Prize-for-Hawaiian-album-lost-in-Grammy-overhaul.html?nav=10
Hawaiian music is being eliminated as a category from the Grammy Awards, as part of a reduction in the number of categories by more than 30 in the biggest overhaul of the awards in the 53-year history of the Grammys.
Most artists with Maui ties were not immediately available for comment Wednesday, but four-time Grammy winner and slack-key artist George Kahumoku Jr. said there at least will be a category for Hawaiian music artists to compete in, even if it is in the more general category of "regional roots music album."
In the new category, Hawaiian music would be included with Zydeco and Cajun albums.
"At least we're still in there," he said. "It's better than all of us being wiped out."
Kahumoku said he's been fortunate to win four Grammys for Hawaiian music, a feat that appears unlikely to be repeated.
"I think we've been blessed to be able to get this far," he said. "I'm not pleased it went that way, but it's better than nothing at all, not to have any Hawaiian music."
The number of categories for the Grammys has been cut from 109 to 78.
Other awards, such as best Native American album and best spoken-word children's record, have been eliminated.
Mountain Apple Co., which produces Hawaiian music albums, blasted the move and asked the Recording Academy to reconsider its decision.
"It is regrettable that - at a time when Hawaiian music as a genre is experiencing greater popularity and gaining traction with new audiences - the music industry will lose an international platform for recognized gifted artists," the company said. "Hawaiian music deserves to be acknowledged as a category in its own right, not only for reasons of language but for cultural and historical reasons as well.
"It is more than simply music from a specific region; Hawaiian music is unique," the company said. "Due to the nature of the worldwide music industry, it is incredibly challenging for artists from less-dominant cultures and non-English-speaking backgrounds to break through into mainstream music. For Hawaiian artists, the Grammys served as a key vehicle to achieve this objective. . . . The loss of the Grammy for Best Hawaiian Music Album is not only a major loss to the Hawaiian, but to music lovers across the globe. The Grammys have the power to reach millions, if not billions, of new listeners - people who are waiting and watching for new music."
While no musical genres will be excluded from Grammy contention, the changes will make the awards a lot more competitive.
"It ups the game in terms of what it takes to receive a Grammy and preserves the great esteem of which it's held in the creative community, which is the most important element," Recording Academy President and Chief Executive Officer Neil Portnow said in a telephone interview Wednesday.
While the Academy has adjusted its rules and adapted to industry changes over the years, these changes follow its first major examination of the awards structure, a process that took more than a year.
The biggest change will come in the number of categories. Awards will no longer be given in such categories as rap performance by a duo or group; some of the instrumental categories in pop, rock and country; traditional gospel; children's spoken-word album; Zydeco or Cajun music album; and best classical crossover album.
That doesn't mean that those types of recordings are ineligible. They will simply compete within larger fields.
Portnow said the changes will make the awards process more rigorous.
"That's appropriate. We are talking about the most prestigious, coveted award and it should be a high bar in terms of the measurement of receiving that," he said.
Separate male and female vocal categories in fields like pop, R&B and country are among those being dropped. Men and women will now compete in each overall field. That is already the case in the field of rock, which does not have male and female vocal categories.
"A great singer is a great singer is a great singer, and somebody that has a gift in terms of their voice, and is at the top of their game in terms of their delivery and emotion, really isn't necessarily defined by gender," Portnow said.
The changes would appear to make it more difficult for artists in lesser-known and less-mainstream categories. Tia Carrere won't be taking home any more Grammys for best Hawaiian music album, for example. But she could still win in the new best regional roots music album category, which comprises more genres.
Other changes will require each category to have at least 40 entries instead of 25, and categories that receive between 25 and 39 will have only three nominations instead of four or five.
If a category gets fewer than 25 entries, it will be removed for that year, and if it happens three years in a row, the category will be discontinued and the material will find a new home in a related genre. |
Me ke aloha
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rendesvous1840
Ha`aha`a
USA
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Posted - 04/07/2011 : 11:45:56 AM
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It appears that the Grammy folks are able to do what Taropatch user couldn't do- define Hawaiian music. At least we can put that discussion to rest, since the definition is clear, even to myopic people like me. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the True And Unexpurgated Definition of Hawaiian Music:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZHWy6W00oM
It's a little bit reggae, a little bit Rock-N-Roll.
"Paint pictures, nosy, all talk is lies."- Bob Dylan
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"A master banjo player isn't the person who can pick the most notes.It's the person who can touch the most hearts." Patrick Costello |
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wcerto
Ahonui
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Michael Benner
Aloha
USA
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Posted - 04/09/2011 : 08:55:06 AM
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So who'll be first to write The Slack Key Polka?  |
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slipry1
Ha`aha`a
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Posted - 04/09/2011 : 09:23:56 AM
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Originally posted by Michael Benner
So who'll be first to write The Slack Key Polka?
thumbstruck, if he hasn't already!  |
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thumbstruck
Ahonui
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Posted - 04/09/2011 : 1:13:35 PM
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| Taropatch tuning can yield zither-like sounds. I've figured out a couple laendlers in that tuning. |
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thumbstruck
Ahonui
USA
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Posted - 04/09/2011 : 1:15:12 PM
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| Traditional music is alwasy accompanied by great food. What does "pop" music have? I rest my case, yer honor. |
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wcerto
Ahonui
USA
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Posted - 04/09/2011 : 1:29:48 PM
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| Soda pop and pop rocks and pop corn and pop tarts. |
Me ke aloha
Malama pono,
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slipry1
Ha`aha`a
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Posted - 04/09/2011 : 4:48:07 PM
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Originally posted by thumbstruck
Traditional music is alwasy accompanied by great food. What does "pop" music have? I rest my case, yer honor.
Da weasel? ...and so it goes. |
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