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Pupule
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 Posted - 03/17/2004 : 4:45:32 PM
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Originally posted by OHIO-HAOLE
Meanwhile...Back at the ranch...Scott...Scott...Do you read me?...Come in Scott?....
Poor guy just wanted to say hello and he got a hot topic ( = 20+ replies). |
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cmdrpiffle
`Olu`olu
USA
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Posted - 03/19/2004 : 2:31:00 PM
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Okeydokey....
I've been away a while.
Some folks transcribe in pidgin. Okay. I don't 'cause
I would come off sounding like a dork, er, more of a
dork than I already sound like.
I consider it flavor. Many times when someone wants to
stress a point on this forum, out comes the pidgin.
I think of it as a personal touch. Folks have done it since
day one on this forum. I think it's funny to read, and I
can usually be found trying to phonetically pronounce
whats being written. But then, I am a dork. So there!
Other monu-mental things I've learned today...
The avian life in and around the greater San Diego area
is evidentally a danger to society as we know it.
Craig is still off his meds.
That is all. |
my Poodle is smarter than your honor student |
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Pupule
USA
4551 Posts |
Posted - 03/19/2004 : 2:39:00 PM
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Originally posted by cmdrpiffle
The avian life in and around the greater San Diego area is evidentally a danger to society as we know it.
On the other hand, my great grandmother once explained to me that being "hit" by a bird is a sign of good luck. In her judgment, I should go hang out at Sea World with the intent of going to by a lottery ticket after the fireworks.  |
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Mainkaukau
Lokahi
USA
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Posted - 03/19/2004 : 2:53:24 PM
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| Being a natural at speaking "pidgin", especially when I get excited, I do find it sometimes difficult to read. Happy kanikapila! |
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Bwop
Lokahi
USA
244 Posts |
Posted - 03/19/2004 : 6:22:41 PM
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Aloha yet again,
Just to remind us-- the "pidgin" in Pidgin actually comes from the Chinese rendering of a phonetic attempt at "business": Pidgin English was what was used to engage in commerce with the ha'oles (round-eyes??) in the sea ports, which were apparently where lots of incidents with foul going afoul happened. And if a pigeon ever does his business on MY burger, you know I'm gonna yell, "Gon fonit!". |
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cpatch
Ahonui
USA
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Posted - 03/19/2004 : 7:55:12 PM
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| They have a name for it when a seagull hits your burger at Sea World: "special sauce". |
Craig
My goal is to be able to play as well as people think I can. |
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hapakid
Luna Ho`omalu
USA
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Posted - 03/19/2004 : 8:22:07 PM
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Pidgin is an acquired taste, but I prefer it over moronic chatroom/license plate shorthand.
I would rather read something like: "Eh bruddah, need kokua, if you get da words fo' dat song, try send 'em!" rather than "ne1 tab this kewl sng plz emial me thx".
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Puna
Lokahi
USA
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Posted - 03/22/2004 : 4:14:20 PM
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Originally posted by hapakid
Pidgin is an acquired taste
So are pigeons! |
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chica
Aloha
Germany
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Posted - 03/25/2004 : 4:20:51 PM
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| I'll tell ya this much. I've been all over, and every place, every culture has its own "pidgin". Especially where I love now, Germany. Of all the places I've lived, Hawaii is the home of my heart though! |
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Karl Monetti
`Olu`olu
USA
756 Posts |
Posted - 03/26/2004 : 5:28:24 PM
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And the original subject was.......?????
Oh, yes, help with learning to play!!!
Scott, if you are still monitoring this crazy site, there are lots of ways to proceed. Best, of course, is a personal teacher. Lacking that, I find video tape instruction best for me. I've tried just tab notes, but unless I can hear a piece first, I cannot seem to get how it should sound. Audio tapes ar a little better, if the tab matches, but I like to be able to SEE what the teacher is doing, so videos are my choice. Simplest one I've seen for slack key is by Keola Beamer, available through Homespun tapes http://www.homespuntapes.com/). Another is Led kaapana and Bob Brozman video from the same source. I found this a little less basic and not as easy to follow.
Through this discussion forum I have also hit upon a possible method for video conferencing, where a teacher in another city, state, country or galaxy could be at one camera, you and any friends who want to learn also at the other camera and you could interact that way. I have not yet tried it but am looking into the technology, Keep in touch, I wwill let you know how it goes.
Karl
Frozen North
By the way, our seagulls and pigeons are ravens; the big suckers that cart off dead moose and pickup -truck -loads of trash. None have pooped in my moose stew .....yet. |
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OHIO-HAOLE
Akahai
USA
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Posted - 04/03/2004 : 04:08:53 AM
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| WOW!...Just found out from my daughter that the Haole teens out here on the east coast are into talkin' African-American getto...and are into RAP Music ...Wad up wi dat?...Ken. |
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huiohana
Lokahi
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Posted - 04/03/2004 : 06:28:09 AM
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Aloha kakou,
It is very interesting reading what different people think about pidgen. Through my experience in the military and living in Washington State for awhile, I seen the wonder in peoples eyes when I or my family would speak in pidgen. Now that I look back, I remember their confusion more than anything. When I was in the Army, I had guys wanting me to teach them words. It was kind of humorous. But, I think locals do get irritated(if that is the correct word)when "non-Hawaiians" try too hard and go out of their way to impress w/their pidgen. I feel if it is in good fun, there is nothing wrong with it. Again, as long as you do stay true to yourself. I remember in basic training when I would hang out with some of my African-American friends, I would say things like "Know what I'm sayin'". Boy looking back, I feel like I sounded like an idiot. My mom used to think the same, too. But anyway...as long as you turn off the pidgen when you go to a job interview...yipes!!! Aloha a hui hou...Keali'i Kahumoku. |
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huiohana
Lokahi
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Posted - 04/03/2004 : 06:34:38 AM
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Howzit HapaKid,
Do you go to the Hawaii/Boise St. football game. I believe they play up in Boise this year. You can hook up with some brada's and sista's. Keali'i Kahumoku.
Hui Ohana no ka oi! |
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slackkey
Lokahi
USA
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Posted - 05/03/2004 : 01:34:27 AM
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Auwe! I 'tought wuz 'Kanaks" posting! Ha! ha! ha! Eh...Julie....you look "kanaka" to me! Even wen I wen spock you dancing da Hula during last 'eeyahs dakine "Kiho'alu Festival at da MACC....Eh "sistah....you go Hawaiian!!!!!!!! A Hui Hou!
slackkey Bill (Waihe'e Valley Kiho'alu "Bruddah") |
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konacat
Aloha
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Posted - 05/04/2004 : 5:21:44 PM
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I am not of Hawaiian decent, which makes me Haole and in the long run doesn’t matter as we all (or should be) the same.
A bus driver on Oahu told me this story.
While driving a bus loaded with visitors one woman kept after the driver about leaning to Hawaiian. She said, “ I really want to learn a lot of Hawaiian words and how to pronounce them”. The bus driver said, “ No problem, I will tell you the pronunciation of different words as we see them”. So he starts pronouncing words for her from signs to help her learn how the Hawaiian language is spoken. There is Puu Loa road and he said like poo oo lo ah. Soon he pointed to another sign that is Like Like Hwy and said like leek eh leek eh Hwy. There is Nuuanu Ave. like new oo ah new. Now were on Kalaniana’ ole Hwy which is named after Prince Jonah Kuhio Kalaniana’ ole. The women listened and paid attention and when the bus had to slow up for come construction she felt it was time to show what she had learned. She told the bus driver “ I think I’m getting the hang of this. Hawaiian is pronounced pretty much like it looks using the vowels. See that sign? That would be pronounced pee pah lee nah right”? The bus driver looked at here in disbelief and said -- move down
“No lady, that’s pipeline!”
The best thing to remember is that we are a group of unique people all different but still the same.
Ua ola no i ka pane a ke aloha.
There is life in a kindly reply.
Though one may have no gift
to offer to a friend,
a kind word or a friendly greeting
is just as important.
Aloha
Philip
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Edited by - konacat on 05/04/2004 5:23:08 PM |
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