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slackkeymike
Lokahi

440 Posts

Posted - 01/27/2005 :  7:12:41 PM  Show Profile
slkho

How's it going with learning the song? I have got the first refrain down (plus intro, M. Hanson).

Mike

Aloha, Mike
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slkho
`Olu`olu

740 Posts

Posted - 01/28/2005 :  04:56:11 AM  Show Profile
Aloha Mike,
Got the intro, can play through page 2 roughly. This song is going to be a long road to haul for me.
Keep at it, maybe one day we can do a duo. :-)
-slkho
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chip
Aloha

Canada
38 Posts

Posted - 01/30/2005 :  8:55:43 PM  Show Profile
Thanks Mark, your words sure help a learner here, keep things in prospective, I do seem to think, that because its in a book that thats how it has to be played Thank you again Chip
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slackkeymike
Lokahi

440 Posts

Posted - 02/02/2005 :  6:40:00 PM  Show Profile
Who hasn't thought that? That is why the "written word" is so powerful.

My approach, now, is to take available score & tab to learn and brighten with actual recordings. Thanks all!

Mike

Aloha, Mike
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Auntie Nancy
`Olu`olu

USA
593 Posts

Posted - 02/02/2005 :  10:07:35 PM  Show Profile
does anyone have 'Ikaika's version? It is fairly straight forward, very pretty. I'd love to try my hand at learning it.
mahalo!
auntie

nancy cook
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hapakid
Luna Ho`omalu

USA
1533 Posts

Posted - 02/03/2005 :  08:09:48 AM  Show Profile  Visit hapakid's Homepage
I have Ikaika's version and it is great. He adds new elements to the turnarounds that make it interesting.
I would say that Ikaika's is actually a cover of Led's version. When Led arranged that song, he strayed from the actual melody "Radio Hula" to create the instrumental, making it uniquely his own. The rhythm and the chord changes are the same, but he riffed on the melody and created something different.
Jesse Tinsley
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Auntie Nancy
`Olu`olu

USA
593 Posts

Posted - 02/03/2005 :  11:26:19 AM  Show Profile
Mahalo nui loa e Jesse!
Someday I may be able to some justice to this ki ho'alu!!
auntie

nancy cook
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David
Akahai

92 Posts

Posted - 02/06/2005 :  12:29:34 AM  Show Profile  Send David an ICQ Message
Relative to palm damping, Led always uses this to good effect, and demonstrates this briefly on his instructional video. He accomplishes this because he uses a thumbpick. You could tell that Bob Brozman was kind of amazed at that spring-like quality Led has in his picking hand. It really takes some work to learn that kind of fluid damping technique, because your finger attack is lowered above the strings. Several other guitarists who I admire use this technique as part of their arsenal, but Led's the man. Now I play with either thumbpick or nail. You'll also notice that Led does not create a bridge on the tonewood, and that his hand is flowing forward and back and the pinky nail just grazing the top, getting mellow tones to bridge crack at will. I've worked to rid myself of the evil pinky plant.

Led's funny, always telling you to "jus press", but when you examine how he does what he does so effortlessly, there is plenty of food for thought. Plenty to learn, and plenty of his soul in there too. There are not many with his kind of finger speed. It's also interesting to note that the pinky on his fretting hand is extremely strong and always in use. He strikes chords requring that kind of reach and dexterity. I think the open tunings in slack key can allow some people to get a bit lazy, fretting easy two and three finger chords only. This is probably one reason why some of Led's songs seem so demanding, especially if you want to tear it up like he does. He's also proficient in standard tuning, and keeping a guitar for fingerpicking in standard will keep your fretting hand strong. I see this in Sonny's and Keola's music too. Also, Mark Hanson's C Wahine tuning used in Sprouting Horn is a great tuning, maintaining that high e string.

In addition to having every slack key instructional book/dvd out there, I would recommend the other instuctional books by Mark Hanson, such as the Art of Contemporary Travis Picking, and the Art of Solo Fingerpicking. I think I can recommend this without being a traitor. Mark has a different insight which might not be learned solely within the slack key instructional field, a number of strength building exercies, and very complimentary. It certainly won't change how you feel about the music, which is why we're all here, but it may change the way you approach the fretboard.

"Jus press"? Ah yeah no. Easy to say when the hand of God has given you some major mojo.

Edited by - David on 02/06/2005 9:05:52 PM
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slackkeymike
Lokahi

440 Posts

Posted - 02/06/2005 :  6:26:13 PM  Show Profile
Thanks David! Excellent insight and input.

Mike

Aloha, Mike
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Auntie Nancy
`Olu`olu

USA
593 Posts

Posted - 02/06/2005 :  9:37:36 PM  Show Profile
Woohoo!!!
Lots of nahenahe Radio Hula tonight and the kanikajammapila!!! Several versions were played, and then all played together. totally cool...........
Rik's doing great!!
auntie

nancy cook
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slkho
`Olu`olu

740 Posts

Posted - 02/07/2005 :  3:04:20 PM  Show Profile
Well, I wouldn't say that exactly, but I'm trying. Hopefully Mike & Nancy, I can have it down by March!! ha.
-Radio Hula Wannabe
(slkho)
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marzullo
`Olu`olu

USA
923 Posts

Posted - 02/07/2005 :  4:04:29 PM  Show Profile  Visit marzullo's Homepage  Send marzullo an AOL message
there was a whole lot of radio hula'ing going on, and i didn't have to pollute the air with mine! =)

has anyone here tried to do it like a hula rather than the swingy way led took it? i love guerrero's singing of radio hula...

aloha,
keith
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Auntie Nancy
`Olu`olu

USA
593 Posts

Posted - 02/07/2005 :  4:45:04 PM  Show Profile
It has words?

nancy cook
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marzullo
`Olu`olu

USA
923 Posts

Posted - 02/08/2005 :  06:34:16 AM  Show Profile  Visit marzullo's Homepage  Send marzullo an AOL message
it does! take a look at http://www.huapala.org/Radio_Hula.html or a listen to http://www.mele.com/v3/info/58.htm

aloha, keith
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hapakid
Luna Ho`omalu

USA
1533 Posts

Posted - 02/08/2005 :  08:15:14 AM  Show Profile  Visit hapakid's Homepage
Keith,
I think the background beat of Led's version is a slow hula, but he just jumps the downbeat a little bit with the hammer-on. It would probably throw off a dancer who would be looking for the downbeat.
I think it would sound nice played straight with slack style harmonies.
Jesse Tinsley
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