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seldomfed
Aloha
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Gary A
Lokahi
USA
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 Posted - 04/12/2006 : 4:59:46 PM
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I know this is an old discussion, but I thought I mention that I collected a list of C6 learning resources (books, videos, tabs, links, etc.) and put it in a webpage for handy reference: C6 Learning Resources
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hapakid
Luna Ho`omalu
USA
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Posted - 04/13/2006 : 10:24:02 AM
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I've been using these links a lot! Thanks, Gary.
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basilking
Lokahi
124 Posts |
Posted - 04/22/2006 : 09:04:59 AM
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I have left the '50s 8-string Fender Delux lap steel I got 5 or 6 years ago in the E6 tuning the previous owner had it in. The relationships seem the same as C6: [lowest-to-highest pitch] 5th, 6th, root, 3rd, 5th, 6th, root, 3rd] and to my inexpert sense offer lots of chords and melodic freedom without as many bar slants as a 6 requires.
The "E-ness" of it helps me keep connected as I've much more experience playing slide on a round-neck in standard & open E tunings. As noted above, it's got both Hawaiian and jazzy opportunities, works for me on western swing too.
Thx to all for scholarly explanations & xlnt links. I got some studyin' to do to absorb it all! Woodsheddin' too... |
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thumbstruck
Ahonui
USA
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Posted - 04/22/2006 : 1:51:31 PM
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| My buddy, Jack, plays a double 8 Fender, one neck tuned to a C13 and the other to an Emaj7. The C13 has a 6th and a 7th in it, so you can play minors, 6ths, implied 9ths, 7ths, diminisheds ( 3,5,7 ). Very cool stuff! |
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Daddy-O
Aloha
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Posted - 08/25/2006 : 9:30:40 PM
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I'm with Basil on this. I'm a new-new-newbie to the world of steel guitar. I have been working on the C6 tuning, low-high CEGACe, and it really lends itself to playing some nice stuff without having to slant as much as other tunings I've tried. My only objection is the fact that the C6 is so high and "sing-y". A lifetime of roundneck playing won't let me adapt to a high-C root, so I tune down to E6 and G6, using the same intervals, just to make myself feel better!
Besides--if I turn my Fender up high enough it, well, distorts...and sometimes that's fun too, and you definately need "E-ness" for that! |
Wait--it has how many strings? |
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slipry1
Ha`aha`a
USA
1511 Posts |
Posted - 08/29/2006 : 3:20:01 PM
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| I am a steel player actively playing in the Seattle area. I use a c13 tuning - from bottom to top, Bb E G A C E on my 6 string. It's really similar to the C6 tuning, but the addition of a low Bb gives you not only the 7th chord, but Bb E G is a diminished chord! It's all built in. The 1#dim is 3 frets up from the tonic chord, the 2m is where the 4 chord is, the 3m is where the 5 chord is, etc. I learned this tuning from Don Helms, who played with Hank Williams Sr. My 8 string tuning adds a low C and a high G - Bb C E G A C E G, whihc is really versitile. I also have a Fender Stringmaster double 8 with the C13 on the top neck and an E tuning with an A on the bottom - A E G# B C# E G# B. The 8 6 5 and 4th strings give you an A maj7, which I spring on people as an ending. I play "How'd Ya Do" on that neck. On the Jerry Byrd record with Ohana, he's in an A tuning - you can hear it on the set of natural harmonics he uses to end the cut. |
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hapakid
Luna Ho`omalu
USA
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Posted - 08/30/2006 : 12:14:20 PM
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Welcome to the forum, Jack!
You play it sweet!
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Karl Monetti
`Olu`olu
USA
756 Posts |
Posted - 12/10/2006 : 8:03:55 PM
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I think i will take Konabob/Ken Emerson advice and stick with one tuning i feel comfortable with, taropatch. I had thought of trying C6, but it looks like you MUST change strings on the bottom, unless you dropped #6 to a C (which i do a lot for open C als Kottke/Fahey stuff), which i know would work, although maybe a bit "growly" for hawaiian music. But dropping the low G to an E,and the 4th string to a G might leave them looking and sounding like telephone wires! Has anyone tried....oh, nevermind. I just tried it myself, and it is a no-go for sure. So, until/unless i get another lap instrument to keep in a different tuning, i know i will stick to finding my way around taropatch for now.
Hey, there's a thought; I am in the midst of making my third guitar (a mate for Medusa) so after that, perhaps another Weissonetti! GAS takes on a whole new meaning and dimension when you learn how to make your own guitars! I'm not saying mine are anywhere near as good as a real guitar, but, hey, they are fun to build and sound OK to me, and they are cheaper than a National or Dobro, or a ginuine Weissenborn. |
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thumbstruck
Ahonui
USA
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Posted - 12/12/2006 : 04:44:04 AM
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| Karl, ask Jack (Slipry1) about string gages for different tunings. I've been threatening to put my Dobro into C6 and just leave it out on the sofa as an incentive to learn it. Good to know that you're still whitling away on instruments! |
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Karl Monetti
`Olu`olu
USA
756 Posts |
Posted - 12/12/2006 : 08:15:25 AM
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Thumbs,
Yeah, I actually went out and bought some real tools, too!
Slipry Jack,
Good to hear from you. I enjoyed our meeting earlier this spring with Kory. What guages do you use on the 6 string in C13? You told me about that tuning then but i lost the napkin i wrote it on. I have a guitar inthat high Nashville tuning, with the low strings .36 .28 .24. Maybe i could just use a nut extender on that and give it a try? |
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slipry1
Ha`aha`a
USA
1511 Posts |
Posted - 12/18/2006 : 1:04:53 PM
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Originally posted by Karl Monetti
Thumbs,
Yeah, I actually went out and bought some real tools, too!
Slipry Jack,
Good to hear from you. I enjoyed our meeting earlier this spring with Kory. What guages do you use on the 6 string in C13? You told me about that tuning then but i lost the napkin i wrote it on. I have a guitar inthat high Nashville tuning, with the low strings .36 .28 .24. Maybe i could just use a nut extender on that and give it a try?
I'm at work right now, and I was off in the mountains over the weekend, so this is my 1st chance to answer your question. I'll give you what I have when I get home tonight. In general, whatever steel I am using (6 & 8 string Dobros, 6 & 8 string lap steels, and pedal steel), I use the same gauge for the same note. It works fine, and it doesn't tax my memory (too much). |
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slipry1
Ha`aha`a
USA
1511 Posts |
Posted - 12/18/2006 : 1:10:05 PM
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Originally posted by slipry1
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Originally posted by Karl Monetti
Thumbs,
Yeah, I actually went out and bought some real tools, too!
Slipry Jack,
Good to hear from you. I enjoyed our meeting earlier this spring with Kory. What guages do you use on the 6 string in C13? You told me about that tuning then but i lost the napkin i wrote it on. I have a guitar inthat high Nashville tuning, with the low strings .36 .28 .24. Maybe i could just use a nut extender on that and give it a try?
I'm at work right now, and I was off in the mountains over the weekend, so this is my 1st chance to answer your question. I'll give you what I have when I get home tonight. In general, whatever steel I am using (6 & 8 string Dobros, 6 & 8 string lap steels, and pedal steel), I use the same gauge for the same note. It works fine, and it doesn't tax my memory (too much).
Oh,by the way, I use a Bb on the 6th (heavy) string. My 6 string tuning (bottom to top) is Bb E G A C E. Bb, E & G are, in addition to being a C7, a Bb diminished. So, in passing up to the F chord, you start open, then up 3 frets for a C# diminished, then 5 frets for the F chord on strings 5,4,and 3. Note that the F chord is also a Dm7. Way cool. (Thank you Scotty!!!) |
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thumbstruck
Ahonui
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2168 Posts |
Posted - 03/11/2007 : 12:30:57 PM
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As of yesterday, my Dobro is now in C13, Bb,E,G,A,C,E. The guitar is now on my couch. I play it and am mezmerized by the cool possibilities.
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slipry1
Ha`aha`a
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1511 Posts |
Posted - 03/12/2007 : 08:32:38 AM
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Originally posted by thumbstruck
As of yesterday, my Dobro is now in C13, Bb,E,G,A,C,E. The guitar is now on my couch. I play it and am mezmerized by the cool possibilities.
Ah, but it's a long, slipry slope once you start the ride!
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