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markwitz
`Olu`olu
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 Posted - 05/29/2007 : 12:57:14 PM
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I just love the way "Feet" Rogers plays Steel on the older "Sons of Hawaii" LP's. So pure and minimalistic. Notes that pierce the heart. Does anyone know if his music is found on any other recordings, other than those done with "The Sons of Hawaii". New here, by the way. Aloha to all especially the the Santa Cruz, Ohana.
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wcerto
Ahonui
USA
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Posted - 05/30/2007 : 09:06:08 AM
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| Aloha E Norman - Welcome to Taro Patch. If do not know much about Feet Rogers, but agree that he wa mighty fine. If you like his style, you may also like Bobby Ingano and Paul Kim. Paul Kim, especially, sounds so much like Feet. Do a goole search or on www.mele.com and search by name and see what Auntie Maria comes up with. I was just looking today for stuff with Ocean Kaowili (yes, I know, all the girls pupule about Ocean...he's just so adorable). |
Me ke aloha
Malama pono,
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rendesvous1840
Ha`aha`a
USA
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Posted - 05/30/2007 : 09:25:30 AM
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There were at least two albums done as "Hawaii's Favorite Slack Key & Steel Guitar", vol 1 & vol 2 by The Maile Serenaders.Vol 1 has Eddie Kamae,Joe Marshall,Atta Isaacs, and David Rogers. Vol 2 has Gabby, Peter Moon, and David Rogers.Originally released in 1966 & 1969 as "Kani Ka Pila! Let's Play Music!", they appear to have been re released under the new title in 1991. I think we got these from Auntie Maria's web site, that's where most of our music money has gone the last four years. If you don't already have it, look for "The History Of The Sons Of Hawai'i." DVD by Eddie Kamae. We watch this one real often.
I don't know where else 'Feet' may have been recorded, he spent a lot of time as a merchant marine, so he was at sea a lot.Hawaiian musicians have a habit of showing up at each other's recording sessions and live shows; you never know who you'll find.
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"A master banjo player isn't the person who can pick the most notes.It's the person who can touch the most hearts." Patrick Costello |
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markwitz
`Olu`olu
USA
841 Posts |
Posted - 05/30/2007 : 12:49:37 PM
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| Thank you Wanda and Paul. This is exactly the type of info I has hoping to get. |
"The music of the Hawaiians, the most fascinating in the world, is still in my ears and
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Mark
Ha`aha`a
USA
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Posted - 05/31/2007 : 07:01:22 AM
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You might also want to check out his father, "Pops" Rogers, whose style is quite similar. He's on Genoa Keawe's "Party Hulas," among others.
Fred Lunt was a student of both Pops and Feet (he plays Pop's old Ric) and thoroughly assimilated the style. Fred's on the Taj Mahala Hula Blues Band recordings, as well as two with his group Na Pali.
Fred's taught a couple of times at the Aloha Camp; sitting next to him when he drops in those sweet harmonics is a treasure. |
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slipry1
Ha`aha`a
USA
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Posted - 05/31/2007 : 07:16:43 AM
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Originally posted by Mark
You might also want to check out his father, "Pops" Rogers, whose style is quite similar. He's on Genoa Keawe's "Party Hulas," among others.
Fred Lunt was a student of both Pops and Feet (he plays Pop's old Ric) and thoroughly assimilated the style. Fred's on the Taj Mahala Hula Blues Band recordings, as well as two with his group Na Pali.
Fred's taught a couple of times at the Aloha Camp; sitting next to him when he drops in those sweet harmonics is a treasure.
Hi Mark. When I was at the HSGA convention in April, someone (I think it was Bobby Ingano) told me that Feet's tuning was (from the bottom) A C# E A C# E. Do you know if this is correct? What does Fred use? |
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markwitz
`Olu`olu
USA
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Posted - 05/31/2007 : 1:59:19 PM
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How much fun is this! Thanks Mark. I also just got my hands on an old LP "Bill Kaiwa sings at
Maunalahilahi! with The Sons of Hawaii"
The Sons are listed as Eddie Kamae,David Rogers,Atta Isaacs,Norman Isaacs with Bobby Larrison added. |
"The music of the Hawaiians, the most fascinating in the world, is still in my ears and
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wcerto
Ahonui
USA
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Posted - 05/31/2007 : 3:41:23 PM
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Hey Slipry - When you were at the HSGA convention, did you go to see Martin Pahinui/George Kuo/Bobby Ingano at the Waikiki Marriott with a bunch of dem oddah steel geetah guyz? Was a bambucha bunch at the Martin gig that last Sunday of the convention and we met and talked to plenty. Was twin sistahs who sang oh so sweetly wearing red holoku, and we met the lady who was some big shot in the org and some guys from Australia even. Very nice folks. If you were or know any of the folks who were there, maybe you could tell me who that was playing bass for Martin. I've got a picture of him, which I will ask Andy to post. I didn't catch his name when they introduced him. Got good pics of Bobby Ingano, also. Such a nice gentleman.
Mahalo,
Wanda
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slipry1
Ha`aha`a
USA
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Posted - 06/01/2007 : 12:25:45 PM
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Originally posted by wcerto
Hey Slipry - When you were at the HSGA convention, did you go to see Martin Pahinui/George Kuo/Bobby Ingano at the Waikiki Marriott with a bunch of dem oddah steel geetah guyz? Was a bambucha bunch at the Martin gig that last Sunday of the convention and we met and talked to plenty. Was twin sistahs who sang oh so sweetly wearing red holoku, and we met the lady who was some big shot in the org and some guys from Australia even. Very nice folks. If you were or know any of the folks who were there, maybe you could tell me who that was playing bass for Martin. I've got a picture of him, which I will ask Andy to post. I didn't catch his name when they introduced him. Got good pics of Bobby Ingano, also. Such a nice gentleman.
Mahalo,
Wanda
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slipry1
Ha`aha`a
USA
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Posted - 06/01/2007 : 12:31:49 PM
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Originally posted by slipry1
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Originally posted by wcerto
Hey Slipry - When you were at the HSGA convention, did you go to see Martin Pahinui/George Kuo/Bobby Ingano at the Waikiki Marriott with a bunch of dem oddah steel geetah guyz? Was a bambucha bunch at the Martin gig that last Sunday of the convention and we met and talked to plenty. Was twin sistahs who sang oh so sweetly wearing red holoku, and we met the lady who was some big shot in the org and some guys from Australia even. Very nice folks. If you were or know any of the folks who were there, maybe you could tell me who that was playing bass for Martin. I've got a picture of him, which I will ask Andy to post. I didn't catch his name when they introduced him. Got good pics of Bobby Ingano, also. Such a nice gentleman.
Mahalo,
Wanda
(2nd try) I was there. It was like a dream for me because "Ho'olohe" is my favorite CD. The bass player's first name was either Alton or Alden. He was in The Pandanus Club and was sitting in because Aaron couldn't make the gig. If you were there, I must have seen you, then, eh? The twins are the Williams Sisters, a long time act on the Mainland. Da uddah lady is Lorene Ruymar. She founded the HSGA, and she wrote da book on Hawaiian Steel.
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wcerto
Ahonui
USA
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Posted - 06/02/2007 : 02:16:03 AM
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I am totally amazed at the numer of various Taro Patch `ohana members who were on O`ahu at the same time. I was amazed when we went to Honey's to find Fran Guidry, et al. Is it synchronicity? Go half way across the world and meet up with folks you "know".
I'm a tellin' you, dat Bobby Ingano can make that steel sound like anything you want...trains..whistles...baby crying...chickens and on and on. His "regular" playing is so sweet. And so is he. A very nice gentleman. |
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Mark
Ha`aha`a
USA
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Posted - 06/15/2007 : 07:57:18 AM
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Hi Mark. When I was at the HSGA convention in April, someone (I think it was Bobby Ingano) told me that Feet's tuning was (from the bottom) A C# E A C# E. Do you know if this is correct? What does Fred use?
Sorry for the delay, just found the all important scrap of paper...
According to Fred, Roger's tuning is (low to high)
B - E - G# - B - E - G#
At Aloha Camp he taught it down a step to D so we wouldn't need to change strings.
The high A tuning (A C# E A C# E) is, as you know, just dobro tuning moved up a step. Don't know if Rogers used it, but it was the standard 'way back when and you'll find tons of old method books written in it.
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slipry1
Ha`aha`a
USA
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Posted - 06/18/2007 : 07:05:35 AM
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Originally posted by Mark
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Hi Mark. When I was at the HSGA convention in April, someone (I think it was Bobby Ingano) told me that Feet's tuning was (from the bottom) A C# E A C# E. Do you know if this is correct? What does Fred use?
Sorry for the delay, just found the all important scrap of paper...
According to Fred, Roger's tuning is (low to high)
B - E - G# - B - E - G#
At Aloha Camp he taught it down a step to D so we wouldn't need to change strings.
The high A tuning (A C# E A C# E) is, as you know, just dobro tuning moved up a step. Don't know if Rogers used it, but it was the standard 'way back when and you'll find tons of old method books written in it.
Happy slidin'
Mahalo, Mark. I hope camp goes well with you. (Sigh......... another tuning to fool with) |
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Reid
Ha`aha`a
Andorra
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Posted - 06/18/2007 : 07:30:55 AM
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Jack, High A should be a piece of cake for you, if that is the one you are sighing about. It is also just the chord triads in two places, of course. Also, it is a kind of Taropatch - the top 3 strings, so if you know the Open G moves, they are there, but just displaced 2 frets. Lorene Ruymar teaches Low Bass A major, which is Totally Taropatch moved up 2 frets. I kinda don't like Amaj, because I don't think the bass strings offer enough opportunities, as C6 does, so I have transposed all her lessons into C6, as I go along.
But, try it and tell us what it is like (I suppose it offers a lot of options going across the fretboard, but I like to find the notes going up and down.)
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Mark
Ha`aha`a
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Posted - 06/18/2007 : 07:40:27 AM
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(Sigh......... another tuning to fool with)
And that is why steel players all have that furrowed brow look...
One thing about the Rogers tuning is the third on the top string --- just like C6 and a bunch of others. At camp, Fred grabbed a steel tuned in C6 and demo'ed how you could play Roger's style licks in that tuning by avoiding the second (A) string.
Then he played one of those big sixth chords and made a face: "I just hate that sound..."
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slipry1
Ha`aha`a
USA
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Posted - 06/19/2007 : 05:42:24 AM
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Originally posted by Reid
Jack, High A should be a piece of cake for you, if that is the one you are sighing about. It is also just the chord triads in two places, of course. Also, it is a kind of Taropatch - the top 3 strings, so if you know the Open G moves, they are there, but just displaced 2 frets. Lorene Ruymar teaches Low Bass A major, which is Totally Taropatch moved up 2 frets. I kinda don't like Amaj, because I don't think the bass strings offer enough opportunities, as C6 does, so I have transposed all her lessons into C6, as I go along.
But, try it and tell us what it is like (I suppose it offers a lot of options going across the fretboard, but I like to find the notes going up and down.)
...Reid
The sigh is because I'm struggling with the B11 tuning right now (Thanks to Noeau for da help!). I play most everything in C13 tuning, Paul, because, as you said, I can emulate a lot of styles with it by careful selection of two strings, and forward and backward slants yeild smooth transitions and scales. ""How'd Ya Do", though, is tough in the C13 (or C6) tuning because of the structure of the song, while it rolls right out in an A6 based tuning (like the B11). That's my main motivation for learning B11. I've ordered the Jerry Byrd instruction book and cassettes, and I've sent off an SOS to Alan Akaka as well. That's how it is with the steel - ever upward and onward. BTW, listening to Feet a lot has radically improved my approach to Hawaiian steel guitar, even when using other tunings. |
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