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thumbstruck
Ahonui

USA
2168 Posts

Posted - 07/16/2007 :  4:08:22 PM  Show Profile
Eh. Keaka! You get all da 10 Commandments fo' da Musician? Post what you have an' see what others add!
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hwnmusiclives
`Olu`olu

USA
580 Posts

Posted - 07/24/2007 :  04:23:49 AM  Show Profile  Visit hwnmusiclives's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by rendesvous1840

There were at least two albums done as "Hawaii's Favorite Slack Key & Steel Guitar", vol 1 & vol 2 by The Maile Serenaders.Vol 1 has Eddie Kamae,Joe Marshall,Atta Isaacs, and David Rogers. Vol 2 has Gabby, Peter Moon, and David Rogers.Originally released in 1966 & 1969 as "Kani Ka Pila! Let's Play Music!", they appear to have been re released under the new title in 1991.

Paul



Interesting side note, I think, but the steel playing on Volume 2 of this collection is largely done NOT by "Feets" but by Gabby. And the mystery bass player is Robert Cazimero.

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hwnmusiclives
`Olu`olu

USA
580 Posts

Posted - 07/24/2007 :  04:25:16 AM  Show Profile  Visit hwnmusiclives's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Mark

You might also want to check out his father, "Pops" Rogers, whose style is quite similar. He's on Genoa Keawe's "Party Hulas," among others.




I forgot to mention in my last post that Benny "Pops" Rogers is not David "Feets" Rogers' father, but rather his uncle.

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slipry1
Ha`aha`a

USA
1511 Posts

Posted - 07/24/2007 :  04:35:56 AM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by thumbstruck

Eh. Keaka! You get all da 10 Commandments fo' da Musician? Post what you have an' see what others add!


Nah. Like most musicians, I can only count to 3. Sometime, I'll post 'em.

keaka
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rendesvous1840
Ha`aha`a

USA
1055 Posts

Posted - 07/24/2007 :  5:44:10 PM  Show Profile
It's very possible other players are on the 2 Maile Seranaders records. The cover say M S including... But it doesn't say those are the only people on the recordings. I guess no one thought we would be that interested.I always like to see detailed liner notes, but not all companies give them.I've seen old blues reissues that listed unknown for bass or drums. At times, this may have been to escape the unknown players contract with a different company.Bob Dylan playing as Blind Boy Grunt, etc. Do all record companies insist on exclusive contracts?
Paul

"A master banjo player isn't the person who can pick the most notes.It's the person who can touch the most hearts." Patrick Costello
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naukilo
Lokahi

USA
103 Posts

Posted - 08/14/2007 :  6:38:51 PM  Show Profile  Visit naukilo's Homepage  Send naukilo an AOL message
Aloha Everyone,

Regarding the steel guitar tuning that David "Feet" Rogers used. Basically it was originally an E tuning but since the Sons of Hawaii tuned one step down from 440, it turned into a D tuning.

As for the steel guitar being heard on Genoa's recordings, it was "Feets" uncle Benny Rogers, not his dad George "Pops" Rogers playing. However, "Pops" would sometimes fill in on live performances with both Uncle Ray Kane and Genoa after Benny passed away.

Aloha,
Dennis Kamakahi
Sons of Hawaii 1972-1992
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naukilo
Lokahi

USA
103 Posts

Posted - 12/31/2007 :  7:10:33 PM  Show Profile  Visit naukilo's Homepage  Send naukilo an AOL message
Regarding Kani Ka Pila Vol 2 (Maile Serenaders), the original album.

It was Gabby playing all the steel guitar solos along with Peter Moon who played uke and slack key guitar on that recording with Gabby playing slack key on some numbers too. David Rogers did not play at all on Vol.2

Aloha,
Dennis Kamakahi
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wcerto
Ahonui

USA
5052 Posts

Posted - 01/01/2008 :  02:16:34 AM  Show Profile
Uncle Dennis - thanks for cluing us in on who played the steel. Gabby was quite the good steel player. Feet had a unique sound that I have not heard from anyone else; however, I find that Bobby Ingano can make close to that sweet sound. Paul Kim also, you can tell that perhaps he listened to Feet.

Me ke aloha
Malama pono,
Wanda
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justplainbill
Akahai

USA
53 Posts

Posted - 01/01/2008 :  1:16:07 PM  Show Profile
I really like Gabby on steel. I know he was mostly known for slack key, but his steel playing is some of my favorite sounds.
Herbert Hanawahine played the Benny Rogers style, and played for Aunty Genoa also, but I don't know if he recorded with her. Herbert lives in Vegas these days and usually comes to the Aloha Int'l Steel Guitar Club convention in Winchester IN.in July. He also has a nice CD out.
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naukilo
Lokahi

USA
103 Posts

Posted - 01/01/2008 :  7:30:54 PM  Show Profile  Visit naukilo's Homepage  Send naukilo an AOL message
Gabby was a great fan of David Keli'i, another great steel guitarist of the past.

As for students of Dave Feet Rogers, there were three people who Feet mentored when he was alive. Fred Lunt, Bobby Ingano, and Feet's nephew who is also a Rogers but I can't remember his first name....my bad.

Aloha,
Dennis Kamakahi
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hwnmusiclives
`Olu`olu

USA
580 Posts

Posted - 01/02/2008 :  05:54:02 AM  Show Profile  Visit hwnmusiclives's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by justplainbill

Herbert Hanawahine played the Benny Rogers style, and played for Aunty Genoa also, but I don't know if he recorded with her. Herbert lives in Vegas these days and usually comes to the Aloha Int'l Steel Guitar Club convention in Winchester IN.in July. He also has a nice CD out.

Uncle Herb made a number of recordings with Aunty Genoa. They did a live recording to celebrate their last performance at the Aloha Grill before it changed hands, and they did another (still out of print) called "All-Time Hula Favorites" for the Poki label. Herb also provided the steel work for Peter Ahia's two beautiful albums and for the debut album from Kealoha Kalama in the 1970's, as well as for a more recent Ho`opi`i Brothers CD.


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justplainbill
Akahai

USA
53 Posts

Posted - 01/02/2008 :  1:43:34 PM  Show Profile
Bobby has been working at that market for like 33 years!! I think he would advise most musicians "don't quit your day job!" He said that to me again last week in a phone conversation. Playing jobs in Hawaii Nei aren't all that plentiful like in the golden years of the late forties and early fifties. Most, if not all pros in Hawaii have day jobs it seems, from what I hear.
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Basil Henriques
Lokahi

United Kingdom
225 Posts

Posted - 01/03/2008 :  02:01:25 AM  Show Profile  Visit Basil Henriques's Homepage
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Most, if not all pros in Hawaii have day jobs it seems, from what I hear.
Does that not then make them "Semi-Pro" ?


Edited by - Basil Henriques on 01/04/2008 10:45:51 AM
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Mark
Ha`aha`a

USA
1628 Posts

Posted - 01/03/2008 :  09:43:30 AM  Show Profile  Visit Mark's Homepage
quote:
Does that not then make the "Semi-Pro" ?


Only if they drive a truck.
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Trev
Lokahi

United Kingdom
265 Posts

Posted - 01/04/2008 :  07:12:49 AM  Show Profile
Interesting! In case there's any confusion, in the UK we use 'professional' musician to mean someone who makes their entire living from playing music, and 'semi-professional' to mean someone who makes part of their living from music, but who has another job. In America, I don't believe I've ever heard this terminology; 'Semi' means, as Mark says, a sort of truck (or as we would call it, a 'lorry'). In the UK, we also pronounce it to rhyme with 'jemmy', as opposed to 'sem-eye'.

There could be a whole other thread about this topic, if I had a spare semi-hour!
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