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P.M. JR.
Akahai
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 Posted - 02/04/2009 : 1:34:49 PM
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Aloha!
I think we could go back and forth forever with this one guys... It's a very interesting discussion haha 
Braddah Jay,
What little I musically learned from my Dad firsthand was that there is no "correct" way to play a song and I think we can all agree to that lol. Whenever I was fortunate enough to learn something
from him, it was only a basic melody; EVERYTHING else was left to be interpreted by me and how I wanted to shape the music. "Play How You Feel" is a mutual philosophy which the Pahinui's, my Dad and I share.
I know my father in ways no one (not even his oldest of friends) will ever know him and Braddah Jay, believe me, if I showed him this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5o6LDrDlx_4, he would've scoffed, pulled out a cigarette, said, "so what?" and walked right out of the room within the first 30 seconds; that's just the kind of guy he is. As some of you may know, my Dad can be a real jacka**! haha
Haole_Boy,
I understand and wholeheartedly respect your opinion and where you're coming from. I agree that negative feelings towards those who are learning is not good. You're right, it doesn't help anyone; but to me, limiting yourself to someone else's arrangement doesn't either... using it as inspiration to create something different is progressive.
P.S.
Just My Take On It:
No offense intended to the guy in the video. I think he's really good and obviously blows me away like a tornado!  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5o6LDrDlx_4
I wish my playing was that clean and that I could be that technical! I was just using his video as an example to explain my views on the progression and revival of Hawaiian Music.
With Respect,
Peter |
Peter W.K. Moon |
Edited by - P.M. JR. on 02/04/2009 1:37:52 PM |
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wcerto
Ahonui
USA
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P.M. JR.
Akahai
USA
50 Posts |
Posted - 02/04/2009 : 2:19:16 PM
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HUUUUU BOIIIIII! Aunty, I'm diggin' that arrangement! lol
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wcerto
Ahonui
USA
5052 Posts |
Posted - 02/04/2009 : 2:42:26 PM
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What about some young guy playin some mean `ukulele, hangin around with some old fut geetah playah about my age? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Usz4VhcXeR0&feature=related
These are all different arrangements. I also love `Ulili E played by Dennis and David Kamakahi with the unique intro. I think it is on that Father & Son album.
Can take an old song like that and make it fresh.
The one of Kawika, I am not sure about myself. That is a long way from a mele inoa chant. That Harry B. Soria web site plays Kawika as it morphed over the years. Quite interesting that. |
Me ke aloha
Malama pono,
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P.M. JR.
Akahai
USA
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Posted - 02/04/2009 : 2:48:00 PM
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| hahaha I was lucky to have listened to Dennis' and David's recording the night before. Uncle Cyril really threw me a curve ball with this one! |
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sm80808
Lokahi
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Posted - 02/04/2009 : 3:55:08 PM
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Originally posted by wcerto
These are all different arrangements. I also love `Ulili E played by Dennis and David Kamakahi with the unique intro. I think it is on that Father & Son album.
Can take an old song like that and make it fresh.
The one of Kawika, I am not sure about myself. That is a long way from a mele inoa chant. That Harry B. Soria web site plays Kawika as it morphed over the years. Quite interesting that.
Dennis and his son's version is great, for sure. One of my favorites.
I am not sure how I feel about that version of Kawika that you posted either. I can hear what they are trying to do, and I think it is cool they're doing something "progressive" and can hear what it seems like they are going for.
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wcerto
Ahonui
USA
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cpatch
Ahonui
USA
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Posted - 02/05/2009 : 06:47:34 AM
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Originally posted by wcerto
I also love `Ulili E played by Dennis and David Kamakahi with the unique intro. I think it is on that Father & Son album.
My favorite as well.
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Originally posted by sirduke58
And about that jazzy rendition of "Kawika" You killin' me!!! Dat no can!!!
And just because you can doesn't mean you should. |
Craig
My goal is to be able to play as well as people think I can. |
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guitarded
Ha`aha`a
USA
1799 Posts |
Posted - 02/05/2009 : 07:01:05 AM
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Originally posted by cpatch
And just because you can doesn't mean you should.
Regarding Kapala's version of "Kawika"? Bingo.
While they executed the song fairly well in the genre of music they were aiming for, I actually felt embarrassed for them.  But that's just me. |
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alika207
Ha`aha`a
USA
1260 Posts |
Posted - 02/07/2009 : 3:11:13 PM
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| How old are you? I'm 17 and listen to Hawaiian music all the time! And our other newer TP friend Kamalani is 16 and loves it too. |
He kehau ho'oma'ema'e ke aloha.
'Alika / Polinahe |
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slackkey808
Akahai
USA
50 Posts |
Posted - 02/07/2009 : 8:34:29 PM
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| Well I'm 19 (almost an old man by some people's standards) and I'm guessing that Peter Moon Jr. is 18 as well as Danny Carvalho. The problem is that it's not like we're next door neighbors and in this economy you never know what's going to happen with the price of anything (especially gas). I guess the point I'm trying to make is that if I had someone that I could regularly jam Hawaiian music with, I probably wouldn't have posted this. |
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braddah jay
Lokahi
235 Posts |
Posted - 02/08/2009 : 11:45:23 AM
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Eh zach,now dat you get enough guitars time for one car.No worry since you good boy,get special rates.If you get your own already, disregard.Eh you know gas is cheaper right now,so no can use dat one.  K-den. |
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thumbstruck
Ahonui
USA
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Posted - 02/09/2009 : 07:31:29 AM
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| Appreciation is a discipline. Humans shy away from discipline because of fear of failure. Failure is learning. Learning brings responsibility. Good music is communication, commercial music is product (can be good, too). Which is better- simple food with friends or a fancy restaurant with strangers? Never stop turning the rocks over. Keep a list of folks you meet with the same interests. Build the network, strengthen the network. Go to jams. Put notices on the corkboards at music stores (if they get'em). It will take time, but you will be rewarded. If this post seems disjointed, forgive me. The coffee is just kicking in. |
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abrigoohana
Lokahi
271 Posts |
Posted - 02/13/2009 : 08:56:47 AM
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Aloha Zack and the TP ohana,
We met a very nice young man last week at Pakele Live who just released his first CD. I have his card here, I'm going to invite him to join the TP ohana and see if he'd like to join us for kanikapila.
Since it means so much to you to jam with people your own age, maybe you guys could form your own youth kanikapila after school or something? Might be lots of fun, and maybe if you have a spot and a regular schedule, kids will hear about it and start to go? Don't forget about Aja, the nice teenage girl that attended Led's workshop with you and Timi. She's really good too, and she was looking to jam with some kids who play traditional Hawaiian also. Already sent an email to her about this Sunday, hope they make it. I know of some others, I'll keep working on it for you. |
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Darin
Lokahi
USA
294 Posts |
Posted - 02/13/2009 : 11:27:03 AM
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Hey Zack,
I guess one of the bummers of having the kind of chops that you have at your age is that there aren't too many others around with anywhere near those chops. It's a blessing and a curse I guess.
I learned to play guitar with my high school buddies. The common denominator was that we all sucked, but it was fun, and we liked hanging out.
Hope you find some folks to jam with. |
Darin
http://www.hawaiiguitar.com/ |
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